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Originally posted by Andy Ceponis:
Great, another moronic poster. Did you actually read what you typed? Or did you just type it because it looks good and has a better effect?
There has been like 100000000 posts like this the past few weeks. I thought this sort of behavior was relegated to 13 yr old flamer boards. Thanks for showing everyone that you have the mentality of a 13yr old.
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
To be fair, Ram Ram wrote all above as a response to this thread, which offended a lot of non-Americans here, I suppose (whether an offence was intended or not is another question). So maybe he (or she...) said things well outside his character also, who can tell... The point is that when so many of us are saying things we would not say in other circumstances, it may be better to become silent and spend this time otherwise, thinking, for example... Never mind, I am talking to myself
[This message has been edited by Mapraputa Is (edited October 04, 2001).]
Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Anyone who wants to call that Justice in any form does deserve a response.
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
If anyone cares to explain to me with civility what they found offensive I would be more than happy to address that, and if nothing else maybe we can gain gain some understanding.
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Next, you addressed your post to "the American bashers" and being non-native speaker of English I was not sure what exactly "bashers" means. I understood the meaning, but I did not know in what context it is normally used.
but I did not understand your, guys, reaction.
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I am afraid that people from countries that went through similar events may not see it as "big deal"
Very simply, we hold the belief that US soil, especially but not limited to the continental United States, will not be attacked. The last time it happened was 1941. This is the utmost affront and there is only one acceptable punishment to the American people.
...Over the years the American public has not had the desire (rightly or wrongly) for the US to really use her military might.... I don't know what they were trying to acheive, but it most likely will have the opposite affect.
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I suppose it is natural in a multi-cultural setting such as Java Ranch that some disagreements may arise over the subtleties of language. As a native speaker I should be more sensitive to the fact that not everybody may easily follow the slang regardless of how well they speak English, if they are not a native speaker., and I should try to use more precise language.
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
But you are apparently frustrated because no American has stepped forward to apologize? Apologize? For what? Causing these attacks to happen?
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
"We're sorry we made you kill our own people, including several hundred foreign nationals who were also in those buildings?" Is that what you need to hear for you to heal?
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Originally posted by Ram Ram:
Is there any such thing as to learn from past mistakes in your democratic nation? I think first step is to admit that you made mistakes...You were wrong in using islamic fanatisism against communists in afgh....You are just a big talk using words democracy and freedom. You already sold your values for short term gain in cold war...I did not see a single post from an american ready to admit these mistakes.
Originally posted by Ram Ram:
All, I am saying is US DID support terrorists, dictators, fanatics and recist governments and did not show any interest in supporting democratic countries and cultures OUTSIDE USA. Though it pretends that it feels a lot for Kuwait. The fact is its feelings are limited to protecting control over oil resources of the world.
In fact I am citizen of a democratic country which is talking against international terrorism even before that concept was understood by anyone in western world. In fact my country was talking against terrorism when your country was supporting Bin Laden alikes to fight against communists.
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Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
Ram,
Hey, I did not notice that part. I hereby retract my apology.
I know who has been feeding him information. Take a look at this.
http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_ID=211596665
Gee. All our grand plans for world domination are dashed. The cat is out of the bag. The Americans and the Taliban are on to us.
Map,
I am not sure if I will be able to appoint you as the Governor General for North America now. I hope you will bear your disappointment with equanimity.
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
FYI, most of Sunday's posts were lost due to technical problems - see the announcement here. I lost a number of posts myself; I'm not happy about it, but those are the breaks. It has nothing to do with just deleting your posts, Ram Ram - if we wanted to do that, there would be no need to bring down the rest of the Ranch at the same time.
Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
I lost a number of posts myself; I'm not happy about it, but those are the breaks.
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Originally posted by Ram Ram:
And jason will run his Jspellcheck on my post.
Because they do not have much logical to say about their government's support to dictators as mentioned in first post as we can clearly see the whole war is being faught with help of dictators and kings.
These people will keep fighting against India, China, Russia in this forum.
Posted by Ram Ram in another thread:
I am an indian myself. (Bit too proud as you may have noticed in other threads ) But I agree with you on this one. I had similar expr. twice. One indian company owes me salary of 2 months along with fine as per ruling by california labour comission. Another one cheated me during internship for one week's salary. Point to note that both company owners were US born east indians. Again no generalization. Just the facts.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Unless I am misinterpreting this, which is altogether possible, it seems like you may be a bit on the hypocritical side regarding your obvious hatred towards us. It seems that you worked here, and it looks like you may have even gone to school here. If I am correct, and as I said I may not be, then you felt the need to leave your own country in order to seek employment and education in the US. So we educated you and employed you but now you suddenly have issues with the US. Did something cause the termination of your employment here and that is why you are bitter? Or, and I hope not, are you still working here? If you were really all that concerned for your country you would have stayed there to begin with, and not given in to the alure of quick cash and good education to come over here. But as I said, I may simply be drawing the wrong conclusion from your post. I'm sure you will correct me where I am mistaken.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I've never mentioned anything about anyone's spelling
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
"Is Russia (maiden name "the USSR") responsible for present international terrorism?" (well, indirectly responsible, I suppose) The result:
yes - 72%
no - 26%
I do not know (not sure) - 2%
Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
"We're sorry we made you kill our own people, including several hundred foreign nationals who were also in those buildings?" Is that what you need to hear for you to heal?
Originally posted by Ram Ram:
The reason I started this thread is because you were claiming something to that effect in other threads. I never said US is ALWAYS wrong but you were claiming in other thread that it is/was ALWAYS right.
Originally posted by Ram Ram de Unregistered:
Mapraputa Is,
Are you saying that Russians attacked WTC?
Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
"We're sorry we made you kill our own people, including several hundred foreign nationals who were also in those buildings?" Is that what you need to hear for you to heal?
Originally posted by Ram Ram de Unregistered:
Can someone apologize? I rather enjoy it very much. And you made me kill your people right?![]()
Originally posted by Myself:
I cannot help but quote Jim Yingst's brilliant post, which, unforunately, was lost because of yesterday's server crash.
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Originally posted by Ram Ram:
Is there any such thing as to learn from past mistakes in your democratic nation? I think first step is to admit that you made mistakes. You were wrong in using islamic fanatisism against communists in afgh. Also, most of the 3rd word countries whom you support(ed) are/were ruled by some kind of Noriega, Zia-Ul-Haq or Musharraf or some King of Saudi or some islamic leader. You never bothered to support democracy or democratic movement in these countries.
I did not see a single post from an american ready to admit these mistakes
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
No sorry you have misrepresented my statements... again. If I said that then please feel free to post the link to where I made such a comment.
And i believe that quote of yours I posted from another thread was made on October 08, 2001... not exactly 100 years ago. As far as being out of context, it was the first paragraph of your post I had quoted, so I think it speaks for itself.
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After WWI, we created the present states of that area, and installed puppet kingdoms and emirates to protect our assess to cheap petroleum.
Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Do you feel better?
Originally posted by Excalibur:
Err...is it really assess or is it a typo for access? ha ha ha!
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