Mapraputa Is

[Mapraputa Is]

Mapraputa is Mapraputa Is

[Greg Harris]

while( Mapraputa is Mapraputa Is )
{
    out.println( "Mapraputa is Mapraputa Is" ) ;
}

[Anonymous]

Greg, that wouldn't compile!

[Anonymous]

[Michael Ernest]

Mapraputa am

[Greg Harris]

>Greg, that wouldn't compile!

while( Mapraputa_is_Mapraputa_Is )
{
    out.println( "Mapraputa is Mapraputa Is" ) ;
}

[David O'Meara]

I was thinking:

public boolean isMapraputa()
{
    return MapraputaIs;
}

[Michael Ernest]

Oooooh, making Mapraputa a primitive, you'll end up paying for that one...

[Jake the Snake]

Mapraputa is the sexiest babe on JavaRanch

[David O'Meara]

No no no, the question is: Who is the sexiest babe on Javaranch?
and the answer is Mapraputa Is
(as a married fellow, I'll deny this if it comes back to haunt me )
[This message has been edited by David O'Meara (edited November 29, 2001).]

[Jake the Snake]

Originally posted by David O'Meara:
No no no, the question is: Who is the sexiest babe on Javaranch?

Honestly speaking, I think it's a tie between her and Cindy

[Stevie Kaligis]

I.save.ya
Mapraputa Is the Calamari's Saver !
one vote for her !

[Nanhesru Ningyake]

>Who is the sexiest babe on Javaranch?
E. Mac (remember her?)
(Qn to Oldtimers: Who can recall her real first name, which she eventually revealed?!)

[This message has been edited by Nanhesru Ningyake (edited November 30, 2001).]

[Ashik Uzzaman]

[B]

Maspraputa Is map;
if(map instanceof bartender)
{
map.upgradeTo("Sheriff");
}
else
{
map.downgradeTo("Green Horn");
}

[/B]
Tell me where will be the compiler error Map, if methods are defined properly?

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Muhammad Ashikuzzaman (Fahim)
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java� 2 Platform
--When you learn something, learn it by heart!
[This message has been edited by Ashik uzzaman (edited December 02, 2001).]

[Maspraputa Is]

1. You misspelled my name
2. You forgot to instantiate me
3. Your test failed and now I am a greenhorn

[David O'Meara]

Who is?

[Jim Yingst]

> 3. Your test failed and now I am a greenhorn
No, the compiler protects you here. "Variable map might not have been instantiated...". You can't be downgraded if there isn't an instance. And if there had been an instance, the test would have succeeded, and you'd be a sheriff. But thanks to some silly syntax errors, you are still a mere bartender...

[Ashik Uzzaman]

Hi Mapraputa, i misspelled ur name bcz i never wanted u to c as a greenhorn.... ....and i instatiated Maspraputa Is as map and the syntax error was the space between Maspraputa and Is, at least i think .... ...
But the fact is that i was also unable to upgrade u to a sheriff!

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Muhammad Ashikuzzaman (Fahim)
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java� 2 Platform
--When you learn something, learn it by heart!

[Anonymous]

Ahhh, the programmer's humor is the best. You guys are hillarious.

[Mapraputa Is]

LOL... Jim, thanks! You may not believe, but I expected your post Actually, my first intention was to say why the program wouldn't compile, but then I figured out you can find something that eludes my attention and attack me on this. So I decided to do some goofing, plus "Maspraputa Is, greenhorn, had an appealing comic effect... Then I thought you wont miss opportunity to point out that the test couldn't fail, because the program would never compile. Gee, when I saw your post, I did not believe my own eyes At last I learnt your way of thinking! Now I can hold successful plots against you. Victory is close.
Ashik, thanks for not downgrading me to a greenhorn...
I only cannot understand how David O'Meara dares to appear in this thread, after he made me a primitive!
P.S. Jim, you know that I am not "a mere bartender". You probably shouldn't say anything like this, if you want to prevent possible damage.

[This message has been edited by Mapraputa Is (edited December 02, 2001).]

[David O'Meara]

Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
I only cannot understand how David O'Meara dares to appear in this thread, after he made me a primitive!

*SIGH* Misunderstood again.
If you choose to interpret "Primitive" as Ancient (very old) rather than Primal (original), I can't help that.

[Jim Yingst]

> and i instatiated Maspraputa Is as map
No, you only declared a reference variable. To instantiate you need a new MapraputaIs() (implying perhaps that there's something wrong with the old one?)

---

> You may not believe, but I expected your post
Oh, I believe. My default assumption nowadays is that if Mapraputa seems to commit a foolish error, she's probably just looking for attention. I see no reason not to oblige you every so often.

[Anonymous]

Devochka moya, moy miliy angel. Ya tebya lyublyu...

[Ashik Uzzaman]

Thnx Jim, i haven't instantiated map as i must had to use new keyword. Very gross mistake but as for other mistakes the output would be same ---- won't compile anyway if that would also have been done properly....

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Muhammad Ashikuzzaman (Fahim)
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java� 2 Platform
--When you learn something, learn it by heart!

[Thomas Paul]

I think Map is a singleton (at least I hope so) so try the static newInstance() method.

[Cindy Glass]

Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I think Map is a singleton (at least I hope so) so try the static newInstance() method.

Try expaining that to her husband .

[Mapraputa Is]

We still have an unsolved problem regarding "the syntax error was the space between Maspraputa and Is". Interesting that Jim chose to avoid saying anything about this obvious mistake. I suspect his reasons were close to mine: he cannot prove that it's a mistake. It can be (if there is a space between Maspraputa and Is) or not, if there is some other arcane letter from Unicode repertoire you do not have appropriate font to show and which, therefore, is shown as a space.
Ok, Jim, attack.

[Greg Harris]

wow, to think this all started because i was being a smart a** and posted 2 lines of pseudo-code... i am not sure what Map's original intention was, but this thread is pretty funny!

[Sameer Jamal]

mapraputa isnumeric=false
mapraputa ischaracter=nocharacter
mapraputa issexy=true
mapraputa isfool=0
mapraputa ishot= true
mapraputa ismapraputa=?

[Mapraputa Is]

Originally posted by Greg Harris:
i am not sure what Map's original intention was...

I was reading GEB book. The author tells about self-referencial sentences, particularly about the sentences that refer to some part of themselves. There is a special kind of operations, invented by Willard Van Orman Quine. For example:
"Is a sentence with no subject" is a sentence with no subject"
Or
"Is a sentence fragment" is a sentence fragment.
Or
"Is composed of five words" is composed of five words.
Then it occurred to me that my own name can produce something perhaps not so profound, but amusing also. So I tried. I did not anticipate such a long discussion, though. I think it's a kind of "Rorschach post", I to plagia... I mean if to re-use Jim's definition. You post something vague, and see who will come up with interpretations
How my highly theoretical, I would say, structurally-linguistic investigations raised a notion of "the sexiest babe" is beyond my understanding

[Nanhesru Ningyake]

>highly theoretical, structurally-linguistic investigations
Ah, I thought you were just seeking attention
Since you love this kind of stuff, here's something for you: an excerpt from Roy Bhaskar's "Plato etc: The Problems of Philosophy and Their Resolution". This is just one sentence:
Indeed dialectical critical realism may be seen under the aspect of Foucauldian strategic reversal--of the unholy trinity of Parmenidean/Platonic/Aristotelean provenance; of the Cartesian-Lockean-Humean-Kantian paradigm, of foundationalisms (in practice, fideistic foundationalisms) and irrationalisms (in practice, capricious exercises of the will-to-power or some other ideologically and/or psycho-somatically buried source) new and old alike; of the primordial failing of western philosophy, ontological monovalence, and its close ally, the epistemic fallacy with its ontic dual; of the analytic problematic laid down by Plato, which Hegel served only to replicate in his actualist monovalent analytic reinstatement in transfigurative reconciling dialectical connection, while in his hubristic claims for absolute idealism he inaugurated the Comtean, Kierkegaardian and Nietzschean eclipses of reason, replicating the fundaments of positivism through its transmutation route to the superidealism of a Baudrillard.
And you thought you were being highly theoretical and structurally-linguistic?

[This message has been edited by Nanhesru Ningyake (edited December 05, 2001).]

[Michael Ernest]

Oh come on now, this isn't anything but a line of regurgitated crap. There isn't one single idea in it that belongs to the author. This isn't theory, it's just quilting words together. You write stuff like this to get past your advising committee (i.e., put them to sleep) so you can get your PhD nailed down.
I will admit, the sentence syntax seems original. (Being a grammarian in a former life, that's not a compliment).
[This message has been edited by Michael Ernest (edited December 05, 2001).]

[Mapraputa Is]

Originally posted by Nanhesru Ningyake:
Since you love this kind of stuff, here's something for you: an excerpt from Roy Bhaskar's "Plato etc: The Problems of Philosophy and Their Resolution". This is just one sentence:
Indeed dialectical critical realism may be seen under the aspect of Foucauldian strategic reversal--of the unholy trinity of Parmenidean/Platonic/Aristotelean provenance; of the Cartesian-Lockean-Humean-Kantian paradigm, of foundationalisms (in practice, fideistic foundationalisms) and irrationalisms (in practice, capricious exercises of the will-to-power or some other ideologically and/or psycho-somatically buried source) new and old alike; of the primordial failing of western philosophy, ontological monovalence, and its close ally, the epistemic fallacy with its ontic dual; of the analytic problematic laid down by Plato, which Hegel served only to replicate in his actualist monovalent analytic reinstatement in transfigurative reconciling dialectical connection, while in his hubristic claims for absolute idealism he inaugurated the Comtean, Kierkegaardian and Nietzschean eclipses of reason, replicating the fundaments of positivism through its transmutation route to the superidealism of a Baudrillard.
And you thought you were being highly theoretical and structurally-linguistic?

That reminds me. Professor of linguistics came to the Caucasus and heard a new language which seemed interesting for him. He called his assistants and told them: "Find and bring me a specialist in this language, I want to talk to him". In three days assistants returned with a very old man. "Professor, here is the man you are looking for. He knows the language perfectly, and besides, he knows a lot of songs, legends, and..." "Oh, friends!", the professor exclaimed. "I asked you to bring me a fisherman, and you brought me a fish!"

Also, the kind of text you quoted is usually generated automatically. Check this: http://rubberducky.org/cgi-bin/chomsky.pl
As classic said: "...this isn't anything but a line of regurgitated crap. There isn't one single idea in it that belongs to the author. This isn't theory, it's just quilting words together. You write stuff like this to get past your advising committee (i.e., put them to sleep) so you can get your PhD nailed down."

[David O'Meara]

"was written by Dave" was written by Dave.

[Michael Ernest]

Well let's break this bit of Bhaskar's palaver down and hijack it in the truest sense of the word. I don't want it said I think Roy Bhaskar knows nothing; just that he's not thinking about what he knows.
Premise: 'dialectical critical realism' (i.e., how can I be sure my foot hurts if I kick a rock) can be understood in part through ideas I think are Foucault's.
Interpretation: I've [mis]read Foucault's stuff, and I declare the following ideas are important because we're all going to pretend what Foucault meant is whatever I understood by him.
Premise: Foucault's work explicates the following:
- the unholy trinity of Parmenidean/Platonic/Aristotelean provenance;
[oooh, I said "unholy": now I'm controversial]
- the Cartesian-Lockean-Humean-Kantian paradigm of foundationalisms (in practice, royals backed by the Church) and irrationalisms (in practice, Napoleon or any other idiot who thinks they should run the place);
- of the primordial failing of western philosophy (we Westerners got the willies about death so bad we'll do anything to pretend we've not scared)
- ontological monovalence [a Bhaskar invention hiding behind Foucault's work -- why I don't know],
- and its close ally, the epistemic fallacy with its ontic dual [as far as I can tell, New Age terms for "a priori knowledge is neither" ];
- of the analytic problematic laid down by Plato [invented term? the closest thing to it I know of is Kant's "transcendant analytic," and yes, I had to look it up to remember what it was]
Digression:which Hegel served only to replicate in his actualist monovalent analytic reinstatement in transfigurative reconciling dialectical connection, while in his hubristic claims for absolute idealism he inaugurated the Comtean, Kierkegaardian and Nietzschean eclipses of reason, replicating the fundaments of positivism through its transmutation route to the superidealism of a Baudrillard
Interpretation:Hegel, wake *UP*, you dolt. God is dead. Dead, do you hear? Accept it! He died in the French Revolution. The world as you knew it is gone, gone, gone! Get over it! So what if the people need something to give them hope. What are you offering, intellectual history? These people want Big Macs, Furbies, SUVs, they want free DSL. Their idea of Superman is a comic book; Ollie North is what's real. Too bad, so sad. Get your head out of your rear end already, you stupid dreamer.
Not surprisingly, this same passage is quoted elsewhere as an example of why college students don't learn to write effectively; look at what passes for 'learned' writing.
[This message has been edited by Michael Ernest (edited December 05, 2001).]

[Jim Yingst]

Hmmm... so much to catch up on, and so little time...
> I think Map is a singleton (at least I hope so) so try the
> static newInstance() method.
Why would anyone name a method "newInstance()" if it's intended to return a reference to a singleton? "getInstance()" might work, but not "newInstance()".
> Try expaining that to her husband.
Why, is he under the impression that there's more than one? Hmmm... actually, that would explain a few things. But I don't think the world is ready for multiple Mapraputae.
> Interesting that Jim chose to avoid saying anything about this obvious mistake.
Well, in my first post, I was concentrating on your mistake, not Fahim's. After all, you had already pointed out several errors of his - thereby making you a legitimate target. And by my second post, Fahim had already noted the space error, so there was little need.
> And you thought you were being highly theoretical and structurally-linguistic?
The Bhaskar quote lacks the strange, loopy quality which seems to characterize Mapraputa's contributions.
Re: "E Mac":
> Qn to Oldtimers: Who can recall her real first name, which she
> eventually revealed?!)
I'm thinking "Eileen", but that's a very vague memory at this point - I'm probably way off. I believe "Elle MacPherson" was suggested as a possibility, but that was a joke. Ummm, probably. There was also the fact that Julie McCarthy's middle name evidently began with "E", which always struck me as a little suspicious. But Julie was one of the people talking to E Mac in that thread, so that seems unlikely - this was back in the good old days, when most people were content to post under just one name.

[This message has been edited by Jim Yingst (edited December 06, 2001).]

[Michael Ernest]

Note to self: Pack a whole sandwich before heading off to a Jim smackdown.

[Mapraputa Is]

I know what boys like, I know what guys want

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
I know what boys like, I know what guys want

Map is now working in a diner outside of Portland. She is a waitress.

[Thomas Paul]

And I think Michael is the short-order cook.