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Where's the beef? I mean Pork!

 
Tim Uckun
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It occured to me while browsing around the net.
Where are all those pages with the cool java apps on them. Java.sun.com, jars.com, javalobby, javaworld none of them have any "real" applets that do any "real" work. I know some of them have a simple menu or simple animation but nothing else.
The coolest things I have seen are a sample app at bulletproof
http://www.bulletproof.com/HelpDesk/ and GASP the msdn site at micro-soft
http://premium.microsoft.com/msdn/library/?FinishURL=/msdn/library/default.htm which has a very nice Java tree navigator.
Does any body know of some other sites?
 
paul wheaton
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Have you visited AltaVista? I heard they're running on java servlets.
Most of the powerhouse stuff I have heard of has been in-house stuff.
Oh yeah - JBuilder is something like 90% Java.
 
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In terms of applets, there isn't much on the Internet, because of slow dowload times (= low bandwidth -- i.e. not a Java problem) and slow VM startup times (in browsers).
Most meaningful sized applets are on Intranet or Extranet projects. java.sun.com had a cool one about a car dealership -- look at the "success stories".
Having said that, Servlets are taking the web by storm!! Replacing CGI, ASP, etc. JavaLobby uses Servlets, XML, and XSL pretty well. (www.javalobby.com)
And, of course,there are thousands of Java applications working all over the place (Silverstream App server was written in Java), mostly as internal IT solutions. Shrinkwrap is starting out slowly here.
 
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