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Standalone Java applications

 
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Regarding Java standalone apps.
Can anyone tell me some examples of projects or apps. they know of or have worked on that consisted of developing any Java Apps. that were standalone and not run in a browser.
 
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Goodness, there's thousands. I personally have worked on a lot of server-side java applications (web servers, ftp servers, protocol converters etc.) I've used text editors, programming environments and web browsers written in Java. There's always the awesome Together/J UML modelling and CASE system. And I've used several database systems written entirely in Java. If anyone wants, I can probably come up with names and URLs for a lot of these.
As far as I can tell, Applets running in Browsers are a tiny minority of the Java being written today. There only appears to be a lot of them, because on-line repositories like Gamelan are full of stuff produced by people who have just got a book on Java and want to write something simple but flashy.
Have a poke around the Open Source Java Web Ring ( http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=osj123;list ) for some examples. There are a few applets there, but the great bulk of it is applications.
And that's just some software that people are giving away. Real business software development is mostly applications, middleware and back-end systems. After fighting with the peculiarities of applets for a while, most projects I've seen have moved towards custom UI applications or server-generated web pages for the majority of the user interface, with perhaps a combination of Applets and JavaScript for input validation and other quick-response tasks.
To me, applets are largely a gimmick and an irrelevence for most Java programming these days. Perhaps someone can come up with an opposing view: Does anyone know of any serious (ie paid-for) software in the form of Applets?
 
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