Ditto that! Also: The Cliff House and Ocean Beach -- walk down to the site of the old baths too; takes all of five minutes. The Presidio, esp. The Palace of the Legion of Honor Sutro Tower at the top of Twin Peaks (go at night for an ass-kicking view of downtown and the Bay Bridge). Artsy time: SF MOMA (new), the de Young Museum (genuine). Marin Headlands, sites of the old WWII bunkers Nearby in Sausalito, the Army Corps of Engineers Bay/Delta model (geek fun, but water's comings and goings matters a lot to us -- see Joan Didion's essay "Holy Water" for an extreme interpretation of this). The pick a seafood restaurant in town -- almost any one will do. Ghirardelli Square for shopping Walk the Embarcadero if you want a slow-mo panoramic of the Bay. Start at the Bay Bridge and walk to Fisherman's Wharf. Get some sourdough french bread to recuperate -- good reward! Maxwell's Plum - posh power-lunching. Worth it once. Pastis for a great dinner and mellow, good time atmosphere Muir Woods -- last stand of old-growth forest in the Bay Area. It's a nature walk, if you're into that sort of thing. El Toro at 17th & Valencia -- best burrito in town. Botanical Gardens in Golden Gate Park to Japanese Tea Garden (near the de Young museum) -- don't do that on the weekend though. If you're in the Avenues, Khan Toke (Thai) at 23rd and Geary serves the thinnest slices of anything ever. It's a wild thing, all the sheer food. A tomato sliced thin as a dollar bill is just a whole different thing. For lunch downtown, Palio D'asti is the place. Of course, if you're driving, gotta get to Lombard at Van Ness and drive down. It's goofy fun, but fun nonetheless. Check the brakes first.
You do know that Michael has never been to San Francisco. What about Alcatraz? You got to love the Cassette Tape tour. How do they synch those things up? And Fisherman's Wharf. Oh! I forgot about Ghirardelli Square. MMMMM!!! Chocolate. ) However all the other places I know about are Bars, and all the other place USC grads go to when they have the Cal or Stanford Weekender. Mark [ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Mark Spritzler ] [ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Mark Spritzler ]
http://www.bayarea.com, http://www.sfgate.com and numerous other websites provide good information. Makes me wanna consider moving to the West Coast It's truly amazing that you haven't considered it yet You're gonna love the bay area... The only drawback, the cost of living is kind of expensive. Who cares?!
>It's truly amazing that you haven't considered it yet Well, I am currently happy with my East Coast job - and haven't been seduced any West Coast companies yet... Tell me, can I play outdoor tennis in winter there, and choose to snowboard if I wish to? That could be a strongly influencing point [ January 15, 2002: Message edited by: Nanhesru Ningyake ]
How about Tennis, SnowBoarding and Surfing all in the same day. Kind of stretching it in time. But Surf at 6AM, jump in the car drive 1 1/2 Hours to go snowboarding, Drive back and Play tennis at 6PM. Then drive 4 1/2 hours to Vegas for gambling, come back drive 3 Hours to Palm Springs then play Golf, and go to Cabazan a huge outlet center. Then drive another 2 1/2 hours and your in San Diego visiting the zoo and Sea World. Mark
Wow, this sounds like paradise Now tell me what's not good about living in the Bay Area/ California in general. I know about the high housing costs, earthquakes and power problems. Anything else? [ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: Nanhesru Ningyake ]
Traffic. Though it's gotten a bit better with the economic downturn. (Likewise housing costs.) Power's not such an issue as it was a year ago. And certain cities like Palo Alto and Santa Clara generate their own power, and are largely immune to the problems experienced by PG&E. My own pet peeve is that the freeway and street signs are rather poorly done. I'm often in the position of knowing that an exit is coming up, but not whether it will be on the left or right (chances are about 30/70). And there may be several exits in quick succession - and the sign that's supposed to identify which one you really want is typically located shortly after that exit. Gee, thanks. :roll: Mark - umm, interesting itenerary. As long as you don't try to actually do anything at any of those stops.
Originally posted by Jim Yingst: I'm often in the position of knowing that an exit is coming up, but not whether it will be on the left or right (chances are about 30/70).
There's a visual clue that's generally followed on US Interstate highways -- if the exit will be on the right, then the smaller sign that says "Exit 294" will be on top of and on the right of the larger sign that says "Main Street". If the exit will be on the left, then the smaller sign will be on top of and on the left of the larger sign. Can't speak to how well or if at all this convention is observed on California freeways.
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