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I can get one Java Magazine and wonder which one others would pick. I am a relative beginner with some experience and would like to keep my feet wet and learn some new things as I do some programming in another language for a bit.
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Jeff,
JavaWorld is pretty good (and free - www.javaworld.com).
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That link didn't work. It should be www.javaworld.com
Paul R
PS -- Hi Jeff! Good to see you at the Ranch.
 
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Hi,
Java Developer's Journal http://www.sys-con.com/java/index2.html is also a good one.
Albert
 
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I have to admit that I don't think much of JDJ. I rarely find anything worthwhile in it. They also inflate their subscription numbers by giving away subscriptions to anything that moves. I personally prefer Java Pro. I find it to consistently contain valuable information.
 
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Try this link for a long list of java (and other languages) topics.
http://www.cetus-links.org
Hope there is something there for you.
 
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Java report is a good choice
www.javareport.com
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I find that Java Developers Journal has some useful code samples,
 
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I compared briefly the mags in market , I liked JavaWorld and JavaPro in the same order. I say Dr. Dobbs also has a couple of good columns for Java.
I would subscribe for JavaWorld.
Sen

Originally posted by Jeff Bergan:
I can get one Java Magazine and wonder which one others would pick. I am a relative beginner with some experience and would like to keep my feet wet and learn some new things as I do some programming in another language for a bit.
Jeff


 
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JavaWorld is free and e-mail only, right? So yes it is well worth the price.
For the old-fashioned paper magazines, I like JavaPro the best.
 
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JDJ is free too, if you qualify - http://www.icnfull.com/syscon/jdjfree.htm
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I think my cat can qualify. I have never heard of them turning down anyone with a pulse. That is why I basically ignore their circulation figures. They send me three copies every month.
 
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I would definitely vote for JavaWorld and, as someone already posted, it is available on-line, with a "reminder" e-mail that
gives abstracts and links to the latest articles.
I'm a relative newcomer to Java programming too, but I found the
breadth of coverage in JavaWorld very helpful and informative.
I have used articles from the JavaWorld site more than any other
source.
 
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If I remember correctly, you have to be US/Canada based.
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I'd second that. I've tried several times and have never been able to get copies of anything other than Java Developers Journal here in England. I've even offered to pay!
I guess JDJ is more easily available because Alan "Java is all about Me" Williamson is still partly based in Scotland and has such a large involvement in the title.
 
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In fact Alan "I know everything about Java except how to code" Williamson is now the editor.
 
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Gosh . . . i was sent this URL by someone who thought i would be interested in reading this, and i have to say to be a little amused at the last couple of posts, having a personal dig at me. Seems a shame you have brought the tone of the thread to that level.
Anyway, its good to hear your comments on JDJ, and yes, Java Developers Journal is going through a number of changes and to that end, i always welcome emails regarding improvements and what we can do better.
 
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Alan apparently can't take a joke. My reference was to one of Alan's columns in JDJ where he complained that StringTokenizer doesn't work right. As it turned out, the problem was that Alan didn't read the API correctly.
[This message has been edited by Thomas Paul (edited May 09, 2001).]
 
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Originally posted by AlanWilliamson:
Anyway, its good to hear your comments on JDJ, and yes, Java Developers Journal is going through a number of changes and to that end, i always welcome emails regarding improvements and what we can do better.

Which is why he didn't include his e-mail address.
 
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And the website link for his homepage doesn't work either?
That might be a problem with me, however...or temporary.
Paul R
 
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aaah . . . i remember now Thomas . . . whats that phrase from GrossePointBlanke:
"Thousands of innocent people die every day. Detonate one rich guy's dog, and you're a marked man for life."
LOL . . . although it has to be said, the old StringTokenizer class, although i may have misread the API ;-) doesn't do as it should do, IMHO. But thats another debate for another time.
With respect to the email address ... alan@sys-con.com ... i marked it when i signed in to be public. Never posted on this forum before, so please excuse a newbie!
URLs not working ... which one??? http://www.sys-con.com/java
 
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I'm a paying JDJ subscriber, and have been for many years. I've read just about all of Alan's old "Straight Talking" columns as well as his occasional other articles and editorials.
In the manner of all such things, they were sometimes inspired, and sometimes tedious, but when viewed as a sequence what comes over strongest to me is the apparent development and change in attitudes of Alan himself. From a somewhat timid and embarrassed start, to a "one of the insiders", "just popped over to Silicon Valley", "Make sure I say 'wee' every month, because I'm Scottish and the Yanks love that stuff", new-broom editor.
I certainly don't wish to be disparaging - well done for building such an additional career in a tough market, but Straight Talking had become more of a "what I did in the holidays" and "some stuff my mailing-list mates have sent me", so I agree it was time to put it to bed before we started getting too many details about "Alan goes shopping", or "Alan redecorates his kitchen"
I look forward to the forthcoming changes. I nearly cancelled my JDJ sub a couple of years ago, because it was almost all press releases and hand-waving, but the solid content has progressively increased to the point where I now read and re-read most of the articles.
Good luck Alan, and thanks for visiting Java Ranch - why not mention us in the magazine?
 
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Thanks for that Frank, and i would love to mention "you" in the magazine, but surely that would go against your very gripe that you have with 'Straight Talking' !!!
But Frank i love it when you say i use 'wee' just because the Americans will love it ... LOL ... now that makes me titter, ironically, its how we speak! Honest! Anyway on with it ...
I take all comments and its good to hear feedback, we got a lot of it, both good and bad. With respect to the content, you may or may not be glad to hear that i am doing less writing for the magazine as i am now doing a lot of co-ordinating and commissioning. One of the complaints we have had in the past, and this will keep you happy Frank, is the fact that our content hasn't been the best.
Well i aim to correct that, now that i am in position to excercise power to do so. In the past i had little influence to make any major changes. The good news is that, with our first real issue; June, we are introducing lots of new features and lots of great world-class writers. You will recognise a lot of the names as those behind the technology we all use.
I am continually inviting people to send us in comments and what have you, and since you've read my columns, you'll know i am one that will listen to complaints. I don't bury my head in the sand like some authors. Take it on the chin!
So if you have ideas/thoughts to make JDJ better, then let me know. Happy to talk over any thing.
I apologise for taking this thread off topic ... what is the rules here on JavaRanch about such things?
 
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Alan, since this topic is about Java magazines you are completely on-topic.
I am glad to see that someone at JDJ is aware that the magazine hasn't improved over the last couple of years and perhaps has taken a step or two back. It seems from outside that content hasn't been as important to JDJ as bragging about circulation. I look forward to the June issue and future issues.
A question: why is it that none of the top three Java magzazines have a "letters to the editor" section? I don't think I receive any magazines other than these that don't have a "letters" section.
 
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Alan,
Since you fall into the category of "demi-god" everybody here is in awe. That is why nobody has had the nerve to point out to you that your user name does not exactly compy with theJavaRanch's naming policy.
Your ID should be 2 separate names with more than 1 letter each. We really want this to be a professional forum and would prefer that people use their REAL name, as you have already done.
Gosh, we REALLY hope that you choose to continue to participate in our forums!
(whew - Cindy waits for the fire and brimstone to hail down on her . . . . )
Thanks,
Cindy
 
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So that's about 60%. JavaPro runs about 50%. If the content is good then the ads don't bother me.
For example, the April issue of JavaPro (it happens to be sitting on my desk) had 4 feature articles, all of which were of interest to me:
1) using XML and Java to build a dynamic menuing system
2) creating clinet/server systems with SOAP and Java
3) using JSP tag libraries
4) using the Comparable and Comparator interfaces
Plus an article by James Cooper explaining how to use the memento pattern in Java.
Lots of good stuff.
 
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Alan: I went into your profile and clicked on the url inside. It didn't work at the time (quite possibly due to my connection), but it works now.
A hearty welcome to the ranch. It would be wonderful if you decided to be a frequent vistor.
Paul R
 
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