of course if i knew what chmod a+x /bin/laden meant i would be snickering with them not at them. its ok though i am planning to learn unix anyway. since i already concider myself a damn good programmer, i am going to learn anything they(Chemeketa CC) got that i dont already know for my electives. actually unix might be a required course, im not sure. either way i am taking it. [ April 03, 2002: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]