Originally posted by Ritu Kama:
I agree - Terrorism is terrorism.
Originally posted by Frank Silbermann:
The deliberate targeting of random civilians is terrorism regardless of one's grievance. The only possible justification is to be fighting an enemy that has already brought the conflict down to that level through to use of atrocity as stardard operating procedure (e.g. the Japanese and Germans during WWII).
Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
With terrorists, the grievance *is* a meaningful context. They are attacking their enemy because they refuse to accept the convetional notion that losing a war means the fight is over. Instead of saying "Live free or die," however, these people are saying "Live free or kill."
Originally posted by Mark Milan:
"I regret that I have but one life to give" - attributed to Nathan Hale, American Revolutionary
"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. You won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - George S. Patton
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Nathan Hale was about to be hanged and was regretting that he was unable to help the cause of freedom any further. There is some doubt as to whether he actually said that or if it is apocryphal.
Patton was talking to Allied soldiers about killing enemy soldiers.
"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. You won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight, wanting to stay out of the war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans traditionally love to fight. ALL REAL Americans, love the sting of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble shooter, the fastest runner, the big league ball players, the toughest boxers . . . Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in Hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans
have never lost and will never lose a war. Because the very thought of losing is hateful
Now, an army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of crap. The bilious bastards who wrote that stuff about individuality for the Saturday Evening Post, don't know anything more about real battle than they do about fornicating.
Now we have the finest food and equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world. You know . . . My God, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against. My God, I do. We're not just going to shoot the bastards, we're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun bastards by the bushel. Now some of you boys, I know, are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you'll all do your duty.
The Nazis are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood, shoot them in the belly. When you put your hand into a bunch of goo, that a moment before was your best friends face, you'll know what to do. Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get any messages saying that we are holding our position. We're not holding anything, we'll let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly, and we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose, and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time, and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose.
Now, there's one thing that you men will be able to say when you get back home, and you may thank God for it. Thirty years from now when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you, "What did you do in the great World War Two?" You won't have to say, "Well, I shoveled shit in Louisiana." Alright now, you sons of bitches, you know how I feel. Oh! . . . I will be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Compare this to the speech of Henry V before Agincourt (according to Shakespeare). Henry was more eloquent (who wouldn't be with Shakespeare as your speech writer) but they both said almost the same thing.