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Do you believe him??
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html
 
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Kinda wacko - but still it bothers me that they arrested him with NO proof of any wrong doing. Just the fact that he had a streak of good luck - when was that illegal? 100 coin tosses CAN legitemately come up heads 100 times in a row.
Of course I actually DO believe that he was doing something illegal, I just think that they should find the evidence FIRST and arrest him later.
 
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Catchy line :
Yet the SEC source admits, "No one can find any record of any Andrew Carlssin existing anywhere before December 2002."
I think they should fit some kind of transmiter and free him to go in future
 
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100 coin tosses CAN legitemately come up heads 100 times in a row.


Not in the life time of the universe, not even if all 5 billion people on the planet try to do that for the life time of the universe. According to my calculations, if you toss a coin every second, it will take you about 4.02E22 (4.02 to the power of 22) years before you can do 100 heads in a row. The known life of the universe is only 4E17 years.
Eugene.
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I think Yahoo is playing an April Fools prank, a day or two early.
But I prefer to believe this Carlssin dude!
 
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:

Not in the life time of the universe, not even if all 5 billion people on the planet try to do that for the life time of the universe. According to my calculations, if you toss a coin every second, it will take you about 4.02E22 (4.02 to the power of 22) years before you can do 100 heads in a row. The known life of the universe is only 4E17 years.
Eugene.
[ March 28, 2003: Message edited by: Eugene Kononov ]


Nothing is impossible
 
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From the story:
44-year-old Andrew Carlssin
"No one can find any record of any Andrew Carlssin existing anywhere before December 2002."
Umm. If there's no record of him, how do they know he's 44 ?
Have any of you ever seen a copy of "The Weekly World News", the apparent source of
this story. You might want to check out the credibility of the web site first:
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/
 
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What an idiot! If he is from Y-2256 then he knew from history that he is gonna get caught and jailed in Y-2003. Why would he come back?
And for that matter, what good will be a portfolio worth $350 million (of current companies) in Y-2256
 
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And for that matter, what good will be a portfolio worth $350 million (of current companies) in Y-2256


He planned to deposit it in the US government bonds at 5%. Upon his return to year 2256, his account would be worth about 80,000 billion dollars ($350 mil compounded for 253 years at 5%).
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He planned to deposit it in the US government bonds at 5%. Upon his return to year 2256, his account would be worth about 80,000 billion dollars ($350 mil compounded for 253 years at 5%).
Which might be enough to buy a cup of coffee; if he can find anyone who remeembers the USA to redeem the bonds
 
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Ah I see 10 WAYS TO TELL IF YOUR CO-WORKER IS AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL!
So if the person next to you has a flat stomach and large chest, is a vegetarian, wears perfume and sunglasses, not enough clothes and has cold hands, likes to dance with strange body motions, and talks on a cell phone alot, Oh and has a strange sense of humor, it is probably an Alien.

Wait - are we talking about my daughter here?
 
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Which might be enough to buy a cup of coffee; if he can find anyone who remeembers the USA to redeem the bonds
Well if he's from 2256, I think he knew before the trip whether US$350 mil would be worth something or not. I view the fact that he made the trip as a good sign for the US. Unless of course he inadvertently changed something in the past and screwed up his own history.
Kinda wacko - but still it bothers me that they arrested him with NO proof of any wrong doing. Just the fact that he had a streak of good luck - when was that illegal?
First off, this story is coming from Weekly World News, so I wouldn't assume that there's necessarily any truth to it whatsoever. But given the "facts" of the story, either (a) he's lying, which tends to support the idea that he's done something illegal in need of covering up, or (b) he's telling the truth. Just to consider the latter possibility for fun, it seems to me that trading based on knowledge from the future, which is unavailable to everyone else, is just as immoral (if not actually illegal) as insider trading. Where did all his money come from? From other traders who didn't have access to his information, and thus couldn't possibly compete in anything resembling a fair manner. It's basically a form of theft, in my opinion, though I don't know if any existing laws would be broad enough to cover it.
Back in the real world though - no proof that he did anything illegal? I think that as Eugene indicated, the gross improbabiliy of the event, combined with no reasonable counter-explanation, is enough for the arrest at least. Might even be enough for a conviction, but they'd be much better off doing some detective work to find additional evidence beforehand. Remember that proof of wrongdoing is not required for an arrest - it's required for a conviction later. An arrest requires some sort of reasonable reason to detain a suspect, but the standards of proof/evidence/whatever are vastly lower for arrest than they are for a conviction.
OK, this can lead to whole discussions of the merits and flaws of the American legal system, the situation for "illegal combatants" now detained in Guantanamo Bay, etc. Let's not go there; political discussions are too controversial for the Ranch right now. We're just talking about one hypothetical time traveler, remember.
Back in the realm of science fiction - how does this alleged time travel work? Maybe there's just one time line, and when he travels into his own past he's actually incapable of doing anything which alters the past or invalidates his own future. In this case, he really should've done more research before going, and located his own arrest records. That would've tipped him off about his impending problem.
Or maybe when he travels back in time he can make changes, in which case he's now creating a new future, which either overwrites the old one, or exists as an alternate reality of some sort. Either way, if he wants to profit from his venture he's got to stay in the new timeline, not return to the old one. In which case the validity of his knowledge will probably diminish drastically the longer he stays in the new timeline. Chaos theory tells us that weather patterns, for example, will have been vastly altered across the planet within a few days of his arrival (butterfly effect). This could have substantial effect on the economy, not to mention people's lives. (When & where hurricanes strike, for example.) And what about the possibility that his presence in the past leads to someone learning about time travel much earlier than they did in the original timeline? (Say, because he was arrested and blabbed about it to everyone?) Again, this can cause vast changes in "history". Over 250 years or so, there's an excellent chance that the future he "returns" to would be almost unrecognizable. He might still be wealthy (or not), but shouldn't count on anything really. Probably won't know a single person when he gets back.
 
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