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Theory of development

 
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Why is that all the developed nations belong to the northern hemisphere . Or let me rephrase that why is it that all countries that have a tropical climate still in the "developing country" list . Is it that the Brain works at optimum only in colder climates and a steamy climate induces lethargy. To all the people I have asked they just kept thinking.
"Is there anybody in here...?"
 
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Originally posted by Nirvan Sagar:
Why is that all the developed nations belong to the northern hemisphere . Or let me rephrase that why is it that all countries that have a tropical climate still in the "developing country" list . Is it that the Brain works at optimum only in colder climates and a steamy climate induces lethargy. To all the people I have asked they just kept thinking.
"Is there anybody in here...?"


how many slave ships brought people from the northern hemisphere over to the southern for development?
while I have no doubt that a huge number of countries at some stage or another used slaves to develop, I'm sure even thumb sucking some numbers to answer my question will in fact answer your question to some degree.
humans really are strange creatures, I cant imagine some other creatures, birds maybe, forcing other birds to build their nests, maybe a bird bath to go with it, make that a bird jacuzzi, 5000 levels high so they can show all of bird kind how superior they are, and have some bird somewhere think that birds from the southern hemisphere are inferior and maybe have smaller brains due to the tropical climate.
I hope that sounds ridiculous, and I hope man will never do that again, and gets rid of whatevers left of it, as well as similar practices, ie sex slaves, sweat shops and the likes
 
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Nirvan , when you're done considering how personel agencies signed up willing and keen staff to leave the homes and travel on cruise ships to many of whats now first world countries for high paying and very satisfying jobs then throw in a few other variables that may have contributed, you can start with colonies.
 
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Originally posted by Ta Ri Ki Sun:

how many slave ships brought people from the northern hemisphere over to the southern for development?
while I have no doubt that a huge number of countries at some stage or another used slaves to develop, I'm sure even thumb sucking some numbers to answer my question will in fact answer your question to some degree.


Well it does not really give me an answer because essentially it reposes the question why people down south where not smart enough to chain up people from up north.
 
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Nirvan - you may be interested in the book Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. The author is concerned with this very question. (Well, he doesn't break it into North vs. South, but rather Europe and Asia vs. Africa, Oceania, and the Americas.) A summary of his thesis can be found in the first half of this article (followed by another writer's thoughts.) Give it a look, see what you think...
[ May 09, 2003: Message edited by: Jim Yingst ]
 
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
Nirvan - you may be interested in the book Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. The author is concerned with this very question. (Well, he doesn't break it into North vs. South, but rather Europe and Asia vs. Africa, Oceania, and the Americas.) A summary of his thesis can be found in the first half of this article (followed by another writer's thoughts.) Give it a look, see what you think...
[ May 09, 2003: Message edited by: Jim Yingst ]


Thanks Jim..the summary was good enough to make up my mind to buy the book. I really didnt think racial superioriy was involved but instead something to do with location, location,location
 
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Cool. Hey, if you buy it from Amazon, use this link to order and you support your friendly neighborhood JavaRanch in the process.
 
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I'm having trouble understanding where this thread is going. But wait - that must be because I'm down under. Not that many places further south from where I'm sitting.
 
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Originally posted by Ravi Varman:
I'm having trouble understanding where this thread is going. But wait - that must be because I'm down under. Not that many places further south from where I'm sitting.


Onnum koodi vayichu nolkuvin...
 
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Originally posted by Nirvan Sagar:

Well it does not really give me an answer because essentially it reposes the question why people down south where not smart enough to chain up people from up north.


"smarts" is not a requirement for ruthless, heartless and conniving actions, would you say that Hitler outsmarted the jews?
perhaps the "native americans" were outsmarted too? and they weren't even from "down south".
Also the Irish are not from the south, yet Britain exploits their oldest colony.
 
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Originally posted by Ta Ri Ki Sun:

"smarts" is not a requirement for ruthless, heartless and conniving actions, would you say that Hitler outsmarted the jews?
perhaps the "native americans" were outsmarted too? and they weren't even from "down south".
Also the Irish are not from the south, yet Britain exploits their oldest colony.


You need to read the link that Jim has given to understand what I was really looking for.
 
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Originally posted by Ravi Varman:
Not that many places further south from where I'm sitting.


You are at the South Pole?
 
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The other problem is disease. Many diseases such as malaria are prevalent in tropical areas and unknown in more temperate climates.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:

You are at the South Pole?


I meant to say there aren't that many populated places south of where I am. There's Tasmania - but that's a different story !
 
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Man..Sounds like a Mallu party going on here
 
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I agree with Tomas Paul here. The climate plays a major role. It's actually quite obvious - most of the developed nations have rather cold/cooler weather (they are north). I guess its the weather.
Cold weather might be causing higher metabolism rates as well?? More ATP usage to keep body warm, more energy etc? Aargh I am very hungry right now.
 
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maybe it's because people in the tropics drink pina coladas and margauritas all day
 
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Then how come the first civlizations all happened to take off in warmer climates ? Mesopotamia, Egypt,India, Greece, etc ?
Perhaps climate doesn't have anything to do with it, just the natural cycle of civilisations ascending & descending ?
 
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Originally posted by Ravi Varman:
Then how come the first civlizations all happened to take off in warmer climates ? Mesopotamia, Egypt,India, Greece, etc ?
Perhaps climate doesn't have anything to do with it, just the natural cycle of civilisations ascending & descending ?


Or maybe the ice-age prevented the development of civilization in the north until relatively late in the process.
If humans developed in Africa then it should be no surprise that one of the earliest civilizations developed in the Nile Valley. Humans couldn't go anywhere else in the world without passing through Egypt.
 
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I'm not convinced about the ice age. It didn't stop China from developing relatively early.
You would think that if civilisations developed based on when humans arrived, then China would have been the last.
 
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Originally posted by Ravi Varman:
Then how come the first civlizations all happened to take off in warmer climates ? Mesopotamia, Egypt,India, Greece, etc ?
Perhaps climate doesn't have anything to do with it, just the natural cycle of civilisations ascending & descending ?



i think mankind's first mean of survive is hunting and maybe fishing. so human originate from warm plain, where there are plenty of animal which can be eaten, and river, where there are plenty of fish and water.
 
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Originally posted by Ravi Varman:
I'm not convinced about the ice age. It didn't stop China from developing relatively early.
You would think that if civilisations developed based on when humans arrived, then China would have been the last.



i would say there are two main lines of civilization development. one in europe, one in east asia. there are many tribes in each case, eventually, in east asia, majority of them united into one country over 2,000 years ago, and it is kept that way until now. but in europe, many countries formed. until ~1,500, eastern civilization is in lead, then western civilization take the lead. on the eve of world war two, there are only two independent contries in asia: china and japan.
 
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