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Lady Programmers are the Best!

 
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Comments on why lady programmers are the best, invited here...
 
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your name is nice but I doubt abt your first name.
AW Ladies are always the best
 
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Real ladies are a rare find. You either have old dames - or sexless workaholics - or (I'm asking for trouble here) someone like Map
 
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sexy or pretty office ladies in nice woman suite or lady clothing and high heels attract me the most...............
especially if there are pretty chicks as computer programmers
I like nice woman in dress nice.
 
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Originally posted by Lady Freak:
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best in what?

pls be specific
 
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Originally posted by Billy Tsai:

especially if there are pretty chicks as computer programmers


Alas ...
there is discussion going on in another thread about beauty with brain... these days that species in on the verge of extinct [at least in programming jungle.]
Am I inviting trouble ..
[ July 18, 2003: Message edited by: Ravish Kumar ]
 
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before 2001 there were lot of chicks
 
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In my school there were very very few attractive female engineers. And those who were attractive for some reson were not all that bright. I don't know why, just an observation.

On the other hand, I've been told by some women that there are very few attractive male engineers. They didn't comment on whether the attractive ones were intelligent or not.
So perhaps it is not that attractive female engineers don't exist, but perhaps attractive engineers in general don't exist.
If this is true it doesn't do much for my self esteem, since I like to consider myself an engineer.
 
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In my school there were very very few attractive female engineers. And those who were attractive for some reson were not all that bright. I don't know why, just an observation.
Statistics. Both "bright" and "attractive" traits are rare enough, and to calculate a probability of co-occurrence of them you need to multiply probabilities. No wonder the result is so small.
But all this is true only for capitalistic societies, of course. In my country, women were officially assigned to be equal to men, so I always had enough of bright and damn attractive female co-workers (and if me (female) said they were attractive, it means they really were! )
If you do not believe female alpha-geek can look good, look at Kathy!
 
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I don't think female programmers/engineers are any better than their male counterparts.
But I also think that most female in this industry are good at what they do. Why? Well, my theory is, women are not sufficiently encouraged to enter the field (maybe just a lack of interest?), therefore those that are in it are there because they love it. When you love what you do, there's a good chance you'll be good at it...
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i agree with marie's comment.
 
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Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. -- Margaret Thatcher
 
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Female programmers are better than male programmers in many areas, for example cooking and cleaning
 
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Marie: But I also think that most female in this industry are good at what they do. Why? Well, my theory is, women are not sufficiently encouraged to enter the field (maybe just a lack of interest?), therefore those that are in it are there because they love it. When you love what you do, there's a good chance you'll be good at it...
I like this observation. I think passion is the number one reason folks are good at what they do. Except for during the dot-con years, (when there were plenty of boneheads in both camps), I would say that the women I worked with were all pretty smart cookies, although, there weren't too many of 'em.
 
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http://www2.victoriassecret.com/category/?cgnbr=OSCLOFITZZZ&rfnbr=738
I like them and out they dress, I like female unfortunately there are no female programmer like that because they r all models
even if there are in its like 1 out of every 100
 
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http://www2.victoriassecret.com/images/prodlgvw/V230466.jpg
she is a nice one to
I like to work in a place with those kinds of women around also some wearing skirts
doesn't matter if they are technical or business ppl.
 
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Originally posted by Richard Hawkes:
Female programmers are better than male programmers in many areas, for example cooking and cleaning


Yup, cooking good code and cleaning male programmer's trashy code!
 
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Has anybody here ever actually met a "lady programmer" in the workplace? They are exceedingly rare. I have sort of monitored this issue - and I think there is one female programmer for every 100 male programmers.
At my various programming user groups - they are outnumbered about 100 to 1. And no - I am not exagerating.
MARIE: The reason for the few women is the working conditions in the industry. Who wants to work with a bunch of macho sons of bitches who actually know squat and are dumb as rocks but think they brilliant geniuses and are are god's gift to women?
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I worked with 2 lady programmers. One was my immediate supervisor. She was very good at her job.
 
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Probably it's gotta do something with the interest or the sometimes odd working hours.
 
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Has anybody here ever actually met a "lady programmer" in the workplace?
Uh... sure.
They are exceedingly rare.
Not that rare. Maybe you just have halitosis.
Seriously, in my own experience it's been closer to 10-20%. Certain companies (HP and Agilent) seem to have more female programmers than others do. And females seem more common in permanent jobs than contractor positions. Though I don't have extensive statistics on this; just informal observations.
And I think Marie's comments were very much on-target for most of the female programmers I've met. Though I can think of a couple imcompetent ones too - along with a large number of incompetent male programmers, so no big surprise there.
 
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Originally posted by Paul Wheaton:
Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. -- Margaret Thatcher


Paul, i'm almost dissappointed in you quoting that bloody woman! The really frustrating thing is I agree with the quote. The only thing I think she ever said that I agree with.
If the premise of this thread is that female programmers are great cos they make the office a prettier place to be then I take offence, in a slightly flattered kind of way!
If the premise is that the female mind is more suited to programming and therefore working with a female engineer can be a useful and productive experience then I'm flattered, in a slightly insulted kind of way!
Ah the contradictions of the female mind are a wonderful thing
 
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Originally posted by Kevin Thompson:
Has anybody here ever actually met a "lady programmer" in the workplace? They are exceedingly rare. I have sort of monitored this issue - and I think there is one female programmer for every 100 male programmers.


Looking around my immediate work area, there are about 20 desks, at which there are 4 women. One is a Technical Lead, the others humble developers.
 
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Originally posted by Angela Poynton:

Paul, i'm almost dissappointed in you quoting that bloody woman! The really frustrating thing is I agree with the quote. The only thing I think she ever said that I agree with.


One time, at band camp ... Oh wait ... One time, my cousin was attending school in England - I'm thinking she was about 12 at the time - and her nose began to bleed. So she asked the teacher if she may go to the restroom because she had a bloody nose. The laughter that came from the rest of the class seemed to indicate that the word "bloody" was not a word that you would ever share with a teacher.
 
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I started programming in 1978 in a shop that preferred to hire people with no prior experience. It was well over 50% women. (Also well over half ex-teachers and musicians.) On my first team the business and technical leaders were women. One who was my first business analyst is now a senior VP.
I'm in the same company (25 years next week) but today the shop has few women, even fewer in leadership roles. It's a sorry thing, far as I'm concerned. Somehow we are not tapping into a good portion of the talent in the world.
As far as eye-candy, next to zero in the male or female camps. I have been to businesses like Hallmark in KC and Van Huesen in NJ that seemed to hire only the beautiful. Never managed to get hired at a place like that myself. I think I know what that means.
 
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We run about 30-40% where I work. But then, my company is great about flex hours and alternate schedules etc.
The support groups tend to have more females than the development groups. Presumably because of the overtime often required to meet deadlines of development projects. Hard to do if you are a Mom.
 
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The software development branch I am working in currently runs almost exactly 50-50 females to males. Our software maintenance branch is currently running about 70% female. Some of the sharpest folks I work with happen to be women.
 
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