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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I'm saying it's like swatting a fly with a bazooka. I don't condone theft of any kind, but at the same time I only wish bad things on groups such as the RIAA and MPAA, as long as they insist on trying to protect outdated business models by legislating away fair-use, and worse.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Fair use? What a load of nonsense.
Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
File sharing is as much of a sin/crime as masturbation, -- Jesus would probably not approve either, but He is not likely to hold it against you on the Judgement Day.
The Senator vowed that he would soon announce Congressional hearings to look into the RIAA's tactics to quash tune copying and sharing.
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
If the problem reached the heights of bootlegging in the 30's it could lead to gang warfare, murder and mayhem, taking the softly softly approach.
And you aren't going to burn in hell for not putting a quarter in the meter either but it is still a crime. If we start basing laws on what will get you to hell then we first need to determine which religion's version of hell we are talking about.Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
Am I going to burn in hell for recording a few mp3 files with Frank Sinatra songs on a CD for my grandmother?
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You are being sarcastic here I take it.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Fair use? What a load of nonsense. Since when is giving a copy of a song to anyone who wants it, fair use?
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Whether I did it or not is not the issue. I never did it and claimed that it was my God given right as an American to steal any song I wanted. But to be perfectly honest, I never did. I always thought that home made cassettes sounded crappy so I always bought new. Of course, I am probably older than you so the equipment we had back in my day wasn't nearly as good as the equipment available today. Making a cassette from a vinyl LP was a guaranteed hiss-fest.Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
I take it youve never ever recorded a song off the radio to listen to, or when you were in high school or college, never made a cassette of your favourite songs for a friend or collegue?
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Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
If you have, turn yourself in now you filthy bootlegging pirate. Phone up the RIAA and throw out that hifi with the double tape deck (because you dont want your children to get into crime as well now do you?).
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
And you aren't going to burn in hell for not putting a quarter in the meter either but it is still a crime. If we start basing laws on what will get you to hell then we first need to determine which religion's version of hell we are talking about.
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Not only have you revealed yourself as a fool, but as a fool with no decorum or class. Since Eugene was the one who suggested that the law was not a big deal because it wouldn't send him to hell perhaps your problem is with Eugene. And whether or not the law will change is irrelevant. Metered parking becomes unmetered parking but that doesn't excuse those who failed to put a quarter in the meter when it was there. People who stole copyrighted material are thieves. But since you feel differently, if you ever publish a book, song, or software for money I will make it my personal goal to distribute free copies to every man, woman, and child who wants it.Originally posted by Tarun Sukhani:
Ostensibly, you've not only revealed yourself to be parochial (always used to wonder why they called private schools that ), but also devoid of any intellect whatsoever.
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By the way, the little girl's mom agreed to pay $2,000 and promise that they would never download music again.
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
That's a good and much nobler ending than I thought would happen.
Perhaps the press-hounds ( and the RIAA) will move on to the portals that make it so easy, then, as was suggested.
new business models and marketing techniques better suited to the 21st century which will enable them to keep their enormous revenues flowing, as well as maybe actually providing products that consumers were interested in purchasing.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
But since you feel differently, if you ever publish a book, song, or software for money I will make it my personal goal to distribute free copies to every man, woman, and child who wants it.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
You put me in mind of the British Poll Tax. Hugely unpopular, but it was only removed a couple of years after implementation.
Poll Tax
Poll tax riots
That was one "business" model that could only be tested out on the whole population. A slightly less popular model was then accepted by the grateful population with a sigh of relief.
regards
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Not only have you revealed yourself as a fool, but as a fool with no decorum or class. Since Eugene was the one who suggested that the law was not a big deal because it wouldn't send him to hell perhaps your problem is with Eugene. And whether or not the law will change is irrelevant. Metered parking becomes unmetered parking but that doesn't excuse those who failed to put a quarter in the meter when it was there. People who stole copyrighted material are thieves. But since you feel differently, if you ever publish a book, song, or software for money I will make it my personal goal to distribute free copies to every man, woman, and child who wants it.
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: Thomas Paul ]
Originally posted by Tarun Sukhani:
Whether the law will change or not IS relevant, because there are certain underlying truths that exist.
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Originally posted by Tarun Sukhani:
If I ever do publish something, which I have by the way...
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Originally posted by Tarun Sukhani:
I recall reading an earlier reply denouncing my so-called ad hominem attack of you, yet when such an attack is leveled against me, it's disregarded by others (this I have carefully noted has been the case with fundamentalists supporting fundamentalists - take this comment as you will). And then the rub is that this topic cannot invite personal attacks, yet here is one in response to mine (nice double standard).
Whether the law will change or not IS relevant, because there are certain underlying truths that exist. Slavery in this country for centuries was legal, but was condemned by some at the time. This minority KNEW it was wrong and that the law would inevitably be changed to reveal the underlying nefarious truth. They FOUGHT for this change, and now if you ask most individuals, an overwhelming majority denounce slavery in all its forms. This goes back to the popular aphorism that you cannot legislate attitudes, only behavior. Over time, however, attitudes change concordant with behavior. I can ASSURE you that the same will happen with inane laws that an EDUCATED (meaning both morally and materially) minority agree are dubious at best. Your ingenuous example of metered parking is hardly noteworthy - we're talking about Gestapo tactics by these monopolies (RIAA and MPAA) to hunt and ultimately heavily penalize "offenders" - even the language of their discourse is riddled with hyperbolic claims. This is NOT the best way to get out your intended message; it is heavy-handed and Draconian.
If I ever do publish something, which I have by the way, you intend to distribute it freely, huh? Hurray!
That's called free advertising! I'd love that - more chances for people to know how I think or become familiar with my work! The fact of the matter is that with current economies of scale, I would have to sell a pittance to make a ridiculous sum of money - that's exactly what artists, authors, musicians, etc. today rely on to make their living. They know that because humans are multiplying like bacteria, they can easily find an audience, no matter how pathetic their opus, to sell to.
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