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Even more interestingly, Soviet history is replete with courageous opponents among its own people: Sakharov, Solzhenytsin, Bukovsky, Ginsberg, Mandelstam, Pasternak, Akhmatova, Bulgakov, Zamyatin, Zoshchenko and others. Where is the anti-Osama opposition in the Islamic world?
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Grand Sheikh Mohammed Sayed Tantawi of the Al-Azhar mosque of Cairo - which is seen as the highest authority in Sunni Islam - said groups which carried out suicide bombings were the enemies of Islam. Speaking at the conference in the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur, Sheikh Tantawi said extremist Islamic groups had appropriated Islam and its notion of jihad, or holy struggle, for their own ends.
BBC News, 11 July, 2003
"Hijacking Planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood constitute a form of injustice that can not be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts."
Shaykh Abdul Aziz al-Ashaikh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Chairman of the Senior Ulama, on September 15th, 2001
"The terrorists acts, from the perspective of Islamic law, constitute the crime of hirabah (waging war against society)."
September 27, 2001 - Fatwa, signed by:
Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Grand Islamic Scholar and Chairman of the Sunna and Sira Countil, Qatar
Judge Tariq al-Bishri, First Deputy President of the Council d'etat, Egypt
Dr. Muhammad s. al-Awa, Professor of Islamic Law and Shari'a, Egypt
Dr. Haytham al-Khayyat, Islamic scholar, Syria
Fahmi Houaydi, Islamic scholar, Syria
Shaykh Taha Jabir al-Alwani, Chairman, North America High Council
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Earlier today, Fatwa-Online was informed that:
The deadly attacks in the United States are a "terrible crime" which Islaam does not accept and no one should applaud them, the head of Saudi Arabia's Islaamic judiciary said in comments published Friday.
"Killing a person who has not committed a crime is one of the major sins and terrible crimes... What happened in America is... undoubtedly a grave criminal act which Islaam does not approve of and no one should applaud," Shaykh Saalih al-Lehaydaan mentioned.
al-Lahaydaan, who is also a member of the Council of Senior Scholars in
Saudi Arabia, said Islaam strictly forbids bloodletting and does not condone the killing of innocent people, especially in a collective manner.
Shaykh Saalih al-Lehaydaan says deadly attacks in USA are a "terrible crime"...
Based upon what has preceded, then we say that that which we believe and hold as our religion concerning what happened to the World Trade Centre in America – and in Allaah lies success – that the terrorist attacks that took place and what occurred of general (mass) killing, then it is not permissible and Islaam does not allow it in any form whatsoever.
Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaymee speaks about current affairs...
His eminence responded to questions of Okaz regarding the explosions that occurred in the United States that took thousands of innocent civilian lives saying that killing is not permitted unless in time of war and to kill innocent people is among the major sins and the most heinous of crimes.
He added that what happened in America was one of the most dangerous crimes and that the religion of Islaam does not condone it nor is it correct for anyone to approve of it.
The Chief Justice of the Supreme Judiciary Council of Saudi Arabia states: "It is not logical to accuse the Muslims". What Happened in America Is A Crime Rejected By Islaam
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
I believe it *is* misleading.
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Hey, I specially bothered to add "This is not to say that they can be simply ignored, of course" because I was afraid my post will be read as I advocate doing nothing! And even this did not help! Oh great blinding power of presumptions! No, I do not believe things will always will straighten out on their own, sometimes they do, but "on their own" here simply means that the forces behind improvement worked on different level, beyond our radar. What I do believe is that we should not demonize our "enemy" and see enemies where there are none. If Islamic establishment spoke against terrorism, then there is no need to pretend they did not. That's all.
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
"The United States is failing in its mission to create a secular, overtly pro-Western Iraq, a leading adviser to the American administrator Paul Bremer said yesterday.
"Instead, the new, democratic Iraq appears bound to be an Islamic state - with an official role for Islam, and Islamic law enshrined in its constitution.
New Iraq 'well on way to becoming Islamic state'
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
So who do you think dream about death of West?
Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
As soon as we accept this POV, all other lines of thinking are blocked. Whatever Muslims do what might contradict our preconceptions, will be explained by simple "they do that to fool us".
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What we did need from abroad, and what we are not properly getting, is genuine support for democratic movements in that country, even just in terms of the media coverage. After September 11, I was so disappointed that when 40,000 Iranians came out to the streets in Iran under threat of jail or torture and lit candles in sympathy with the American people, it got so little attention. Why should other demonstrations, just because they were noisier, get so much more attention? What I'm saying is, Iran needs support, and the policy toward the Iranian government should be firm. It should be firm on human rights. It should realize that a totalitarian government would never give up weapons of mass destruction. We should defend democracy pragmatically, if not for humanity's sake. http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/interviews/int2003-05-07.htm
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
my opinion is that I am immensely ignorant regarding Islamic world so I am a wrong person to ask.
Originally posted by Paul McKenna
and umpteen photographs like these photos of muslims burning the american flag.
And God spake all these words, saying
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of
Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the
water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers
upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And
shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will
not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.Six days shalt thou labour, and do
all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou
shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor
thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For
in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,
and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and
hallowed it.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land
which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy
neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his
ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
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Originally posted by Dan Chisholm:
I prefer the Cold War rather than this war because our cold war enemy was an atheist regime that could be deterred by the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction. Today, Mutual Assured Destruction does not work because such a doctrine requires a rational enemy.
Today, we don't have a rational enemy. Instead, we are dealing with gullible people that believe that they will be rewarded in heaven by a God that can't achieve its goals without the help of people that want to kill innocent women and children as they ride on a bus or eat in a street side cafe. By definition, an omnipotent God requires no help; so it is really an amazing example of gullibility when people can be convinced that God advocates murder and needs people that are willing to serve as murderers. Yes, the Cold War and the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction was a lesser threat to global civilization than the current threat posed by those that might view mutual destruction as some form of martyr's victory.
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Originally posted by Mohanlal Karamchand:
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Ok, now I get it. So what do you think I should do? To suffocate any Indian I can suffocate? To push a law that all people whose first name is "Paul" must be exterminated?
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
In case you think this is the first time I asked THE question, no.
When our troops invaded Chechnya and bombed and ruined its capital, I thought we would have to pay for it. Frankly, I expected worse terror than what we got.
Once I visited my girlfriend in another town and we took a bus home, when somebody called and said that Chechens put a bomb into one of the buses. Our driver walked and looked under each seat. And we all looked under our seats of course, but did not find anything. It was somebody's stupid joke.
Then, when I was already here, Chechens started to blow up apartment buildings in Russia. This was the worst. I do not particularly care about my life, but to think that my parents can be blown up -- this is something different. I almost went crazy, sitting here, safe and warm, when I realized I can do nothing, absolutely nothing to protect people I love. Unless I am ready to kill all Chechens, including not born yet.
Is it really so difficult to realize that we all are vulnerable? Is it so difficult to realize that if we bomb people (what looks really cool on TV) then later they might come and blow up our houses?
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Where the hell did I say it???
Hey, I specially bothered to add "This is not to say that they can be simply ignored, of course" because I was afraid my post will be read as I advocate doing nothing! And even this did not help! Oh great blinding power of presumptions! No, I do not believe things will always will straighten out on their own, sometimes they do, but "on their own" here simply means that the forces behind improvement worked on different level, beyond our radar. What I do believe is that we should not demonize our "enemy" and see enemies where there are none. If Islamic establishment spoke against terrorism, then there is no need to pretend they did not. That's all.
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Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said yesterday that the world must start thinking about how to reduce the number of people who are becoming terrorists through teachings in radical Islamic schools and not just focus on killing or capturing them after they commit violent acts.
"We are capturing and killing a lot of terrorists," Rumsfeld said on "Fox News Sunday," "but we also have to think about the number of new ones that are being created."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54711-2003Nov2.html
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The award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Shirin Ebadi on 10 October 2003 sparked intense political and emotional reactions in Iran. Nazila Fathi measures the significance of the independent human rights lawyer’s achievement.
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