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Bela Bardak
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It would appear so. Apparently members of this class are jailed more often in England than burglars are.
They are called 'drivers'. According to a newspaper headline I spied this morning on the way to work, more than 15,000 drivers are in jail. More than the number of burglars.
Quite right, too. Proper people take public transport despite the incredible inconvenience and delays. This morning my tube was stopped then delayed, and I had to change trains twice en-route because two trains were aborted early. Signaling problems again. In the view of Public Transport, problems are to be endured, not solved. At least on more than a temporary basis.
My ticket costs $10 a working day, which on an international scale is slightly extortionate. It costs a great deal to do things the British Transit way, you know. But it's the only MORAL thing to do.....
 
Mark Fletcher
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I thought you meant neds?
 
HS Thomas
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Originally posted by Bela Bardak:
But it's the only MORAL thing to do.....


Highground would make a commuter feel better.
"His comments were seized on by campaigners who claimed that motorists were being jailed because they were seen as an "easy target".
A spokesman for the Association of British Drivers said: "Prison is intended as a method by which we remove dangerous people from society - murderers, rapists, people who damage others."
Prosecutions for serious motoring offences had dropped over the past decade while the number of speeding offences had soared, he said. "When you have a situation like this, respect for the law starts to break down."
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Bela Bardak
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A spokesman for the Association of British Drivers said: "Prison is intended as a method by which we remove dangerous people from society - murderers, rapists, people who damage others."

Thats right. And motorists. Motorists' criminally disregard what is good for the Gaia.
I have a modest suggestion for reducing the prison overcrowding problem, however. Bring back the death penalty for driving offenses.
You, sir, have ignored the speed limit for the last time!

3 strikes and you're out?
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HS Thomas
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Drunk drivers who kill should be imprisoned IMHO. I can't remember a case where they have been. You usually hear from the family of the victim that some drunk driver escaped a severe sentence once more.
 
Bela Bardak
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If DD killers aren't getting jailed then I wonder who is? Parking fines unpaid?
It is impossible to overstate the severity of the offenses committed by these horrible people!
I think Dean Swift had the right idea. Fatten them up and sell them for the table.....
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HS Thomas
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I think Dean Swift had the right idea. Fatten them up and sell them for the table
That would cause a scandal and in turn be criminal. And neither would it empty the gaols. Quite the opposite.
I think it's the drivers who drive as if they had all the time in the world who should be put away. Menace to the rest, hard pressed with somewhere to get to. The former treat the roads like a playground, a joyride, an amusement park.
 
Thomas Paul
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I thought England sent all their criminals to Australia.
 
Frank Silbermann
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I understand the danger posed by irresponsible drivers. But why aren't people holding society responsible for this? Isn't speeding an inevitable result of racism, economic inequality, and lack of opportunity?
Society is responsible for all the other common anti-social illegal behaviors -- what makes speeding different?
 
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And the article continued
"The AA was more guarded, saying that most motorists who were sent to prison had committed serious offences such as driving while disqualified and causing death by dangerous driving."
(Thats the Automobile Association by the way)
 
Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Bela Bardak:
If DD killers aren't getting jailed then I wonder who is? Parking fines unpaid?

Yes, those are indeed sent to prison.
 
Joe King
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I thought England sent all their criminals to Australia.

Yeah, and then they got their revenge and sent us Kylie, Jason and Neighbours.
 
Tim Baker
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I suspect that most of the drivers in prison either committed a very serious offense like drunk driving, or already had their license taken away, in which case there's not much more you can do than lock them up. Good ridence too.
 
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