The case against Congress (India)

[Paul McKenna]

For long I have suspected that the Congress party of India is a party of duffers and crooks. Now there could be confirmation..
Congress Party of India suspected of taking bribes from Saddam Hussein
This is not the first time this has happened either.. anyone recollect Bofors? I hope the BJP really squeezes the crap out of Congress this time.

[sunitha reghu]

If the Congress party of India is a party of duffers and crooks what abt other parties in India. Are they all very honest.? ....
Why union minister Judeo resigned suddenly. Have you heard or visited the site
Telhelka. If not read this web page

[ January 28, 2004: Message edited by: sunitha ragam ]

[Arjun Shastry]

Ram Naik,once primary teacher but now BJP's Petroleum minister(who regularly accepts money for allocating gas stations)is seen here with Saddam.
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[Pradeep bhatt]

Congress is now trying their luck with Rahul and Priyanaka. That is really sad. It has no good leaders left.

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Congress is now trying their luck with Rahul and Priyanaka. That is really sad. It has no good leaders left.

Do you think Pawar is better leader or BJP has got anyone else other than Atal ??
And Atal ji also eating fruits of Congress only. It was policies of Congress only because of which we are shining.
And asusual you have to chose bad out of worsts.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Do you think Pawar is better leader or BJP has got anyone else other than Atal ??

BJP has leaders who are better than Sonia. The problem with Congress is they lack good leaders.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Congress Party of India suspected of taking bribes from Saddam Hussein

This will not be an election issue, I think so. :roll:

[Arjun Shastry]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

BJP has leaders who are better than Sonia. The problem with Congress is they lack good leaders.

Thats true.This was RSS policy.Although extremist,they have many leaders from grass roots or who have comeup on their own.The reason Mahajan/Naidu are attacking Sonia is that BJP still has a fear that rural people may vote in the favor of Congress in the name of Rahul/Priyanka charishma which is now highly impossible.Days are gone when people used to blindly vote for Nehru/Gandhi or anybody wearing Khadi( 100% cotton).

[Bela Bardak]

This reminds me of an old joke about the US Congress:
If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of Progress?
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[Ashok Mash]

Well, IMHO, its safe to assume that overall accountability of almost all natinal parties in India, since every party is collection of ordinary people, who fall for lust, greed and power, is pretty low. Indian politics has always been about selecting the least worst from a bunch of not-so-good leaders.
Again, I feel the right process should be to focus locally. If every village elects the right guy (irrespctive of his political stands) for what he/she is, and how appropriate he/she is for the position, I am sure everything will work just as it should and we will naturally have the best leader at the top.
Yeah, I agree, its more than impossible!
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[Sameer Jamal]

Dump Cong/BJP try CPM

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:
Dump Cong/BJP try CPM

It is present only in 2 states.

[San Su]

Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:
Dump Cong/BJP try CPM

CPM? :roll: Congress is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY better than those traitor thugs...

[Ranga Sreenivasan]

If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of Progress?


The Congress party is a liability to the nation. We've been indulging those guys for way too long (close to 50 years).
Dump Cong/BJP try CPM
Oh yeah...lets dump progress and choose jaded practices

[Pradeep bhatt]

Todays newspaper talks about a survey which predicts 340 seats for NDA.
We all know the survey can go wrong.
http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandoraV2/output/5ED052E7-AA65-4588-8B30-617504285521.asp
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[Sameer Jamal]

Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:

CPM? :roll: Congress is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY better than those traitor thugs...

traitors thugs CPM
please use these synonyms with CONG/BJP who looted our country from past 50 years not for communists they are far far better than these peoples.

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:

please use these synonyms with CONG/BJP who looted our country from past 50 years not for communists they are far far better than these peoples.

Sammer Bhai ..
Sorry, but I disagree.. What communist made W.Bengal(specially Calcutta) in 25 yrs without looting it, and what today is India after 50yrs after so much looting, I think its much better.

[Bela Bardak]

Would you indulge my ignorance? Congress was the party of Nehru and Indira/Rajive Ghandi. BJP is a Hindu party, am I wrong? What is CPM? Cardio-Pulmonary Mess?

[Pradeep bhatt]

CPM has stupid economic policies.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Bela Bardak:
Would you indulge my ignorance? Congress was the party of Nehru and Indira/Rajive Ghandi. BJP is a Hindu party, am I wrong? What is CPM? Cardio-Pulmonary Mess?

CPM is not a party.

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Bela Bardak:
This reminds me of an old joke about the US Congress:
If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of Progress?
[ January 29, 2004: Message edited by: Bela Bardak ]

Good one

[Paul McKenna]

Originally posted by Bela Bardak:
Would you indulge my ignorance? Congress was the party of Nehru and Indira/Rajive Ghandi. BJP is a Hindu party, am I wrong? What is CPM? Cardio-Pulmonary Mess?

Congress was a party that was presented with an amazing oppurtunity to build the country.. it goofed! BIG TIME!!!
BJP is always mistaken for a party of fundamentalists like the Republican party, but they are nothing more than hardcore conservatives. And they are really doing some good stuff..
CPM is a lousy, two-bit, lower than a snakes belly piece of crap. They are hardcore communists. And they control (I may be wrong on this) two states in India. Kerala and W.Bengal. Both these states have economically stagnated for the last 20 odd years

[sunitha reghu]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:

Congress was a party that was presented with an amazing oppurtunity to build the country.. it goofed! BIG TIME!!!

Lot of progresses came during Congress period esp during Rajiv Gandhi period.

But unfortunately all young leaders died which is still a mystery esp Pilot.

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:

Congress was a party that was presented with an amazing oppurtunity to build the country.. it goofed! BIG TIME!!!

Green revolution? Operation flood?
A stable leader in Indira Gandhi?
Technical growth in the era of Rajiv Gandhi?
Economic reforms during Narasimha Rao's period (Manmohan Singh & P Chidambaram)?
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[Ashok Mash]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
CPM is a lousy, two-bit, lower than a snakes belly piece of crap. They are hardcore communists. And they control (I may be wrong on this) two states in India. Kerala and W.Bengal. Both these states have economically stagnated for the last 20 odd years

Well, a couple of points. First of all CPM never controlled Kerala and secondly last 20 years has been great, economically, and socially more so. In Kerala, where the divide between rich and poor is a fraction (almost non-existent) of that of the North, things have been different. Not counting the fifties and early sixties, CPM in Kerala was never a typical communist party per se, or the Congress never a richman’s-party, BJP never a Hindu party or Muslim League never a Muslim party! J
CPM’s fierce nature of expressing their ideas, (strikes, huge marches) when ever they were leading the opposition has helped ruling parties to think twice before they try to benefit from their position and power. They have been blocking quite a few good things as well, private engineering and medical colleges for example. And yes, we can never write-off the union-ism and how Kerala lost out (and still losing) the industries and investment all along. But Kerala got lucky, and now we pardon them all. Now all we expect from them is to not to play dirty and just keep the positions filled.

[Paul McKenna]

Originally posted by Mani Ram:
A stable leader in Indira Gandhi?

You have to be kidding me!! She was so power obsessed she declared emergency for the sake of keeping her position. OK! I'll admit I am very very biased against Indira Gandhi but you have to be kidding when you join leadership with Indira

Technical growth in the era of Rajiv Gandhi?

How about stagnation of growth during his period. Do you remember what inflation was during his era??? The amount of protectionism his mother and he brought about together?? Does anyone remember how the oil companies and coca cola were driven out of the country under the Congress's program of making everything government controlled??

Economic reforms during Narasimha Rao's period (Manmohan Singh & P Chidambaram)?

I thought Chidambaram was a part of some leftist party (I'm not sure which). Manmohan Singh deserves his due credit and I'll give it to him. But to credit Narasimha Rao with anything will no way go down with me. He was one of the most corrupt PM's ever. He has brought disgrace to the position for the second time. First time was Rajiv Gandhi.

[San Su]

Originally posted by Mani Ram:
Green revolution? Operation flood?

Green revolution.. good point. I will give lots of credit to Mr. Subramaniam, Swaminathan and the farmers. Congress party gets some credit too..
Operation flood??

A stable leader in Indira Gandhi?

Mani.. you made my day.. In my opinion, she is ok leader. I wouldn't count her as a great/stable leader.

Technical growth in the era of Rajiv Gandhi?

What are you talking about? I heard people saying "Rajiv Gandhi is the real architech of the economic liberalization". But, I don't see any proof..

Economic reforms during Narasimha Rao's period (Manmohan Singh & P Chidambaram)?

Ok. I agree with you on this one. But it took nearly 40 years to start it and most of those time period, Congress was in power. They totally screwed the country for 40 years with their half baked socialism.
CPI(M) - Communist party of India (Marxist).

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
And they are really doing some good stuff..

Actually BJP is reaping, crops of Congress and AW Congress lack any good leader now ...
So you dont have much choice but to go for BJP ..
Congress was a party that was presented with an amazing oppurtunity to build the country.. it goofed! BIG TIME!!!

IITs, RECs, Medical colleges, Dams, open eonomy policy, computers, green revolution ... list is endless. I dont know whom will you give the credit for all this ??
I think Congress could not fill the vaccum created after assassination of Rajiv Gandhi.
I wish Priyanka would have joined Congress in last election .. BJP would have never got in the power.
And she is joining now, its almost of no use now. Though in north India it will cut lot of BJP vote for sure.
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[San Su]

Originally posted by R K Singh:

Actually BJP is reaping, crops of Congress and AW Congress lack any good leader now ...

Could you please explain it further? Are you saying BJP is sitting in it's back and doing nothing? Have you heard of 1st generation reforms and 2nd generation reforms? Do you know what generation reforms Cong. implemented in the early 90's and what generation reforms are currently getting pushed?

So you dont have much choice but to go for BJP ..

So, you only look at the leader and vote for it? You don't care about their past performance?

IITs, RECs, Medical colleges, Dams, open eonomy policy, computers, green revolution ... list is endless. I dont know whom will you give the credit for all this ??

Then explain to me why half of the indian population was below poverty line by the early 90s? Why were 10s of 1000s of people die of hunger everyday?

I think Congress could not fill the vaccum created after assassination of Rajiv Gandhi.

hmm.. that is strange.. A party with 100 years history could not find a leader among a billion people? I am really amazed..

I wish Priyanka would have joined Congress in last election .. BJP would have never got in the power.
And she is joining now, its almost of no use now. Though in north India it will cut lot of BJP vote for sure.

I am afraid you are correct on Priyanka. What do you expect when people do not even know...
how an elected person can change their day to day life,
how valuable their vote is,
how to choose a candidate,
how the vote they casted for 100Rs. is going to change their life miserably
The great leader the saviour(Well, she must be, right? since she is from Nehru dynasty) Priyanka is going to save all of us from the tyrants BJP. :roll:
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[Pradeep bhatt]

Though in north India it will cut lot of BJP vote for sure.

yes, particulary UP and Bihar where there is no economic growth since ages.

[sunitha reghu]

Bihar should be considered as a waste land.

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

yes, particulary UP and Bihar where there is no economic growth since ages.

[sunitha reghu]

Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:

So, you only look at the leader and vote for it? You don't care about their past performance?]

Past performance?
lot of hindu muslim and nation plunging into a civil war with the minorities......

Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:

hmm.. that is strange.. A party with 100 years history could not find a leader among a billion people? I am really amazed..

Yes,Vajpayee is a good leader but what about the rest ??? The rest ...esp extremists like narendra Modi? List is very long