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Two Spaniards of Indian origin also were called for questioning but are not expected to be arrested, Mr. Acebes said.
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The other two are Spaniards of "Hindu" origin, minister Angel Acebes said.
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The two Indians were identified as Vinay Kohly and Suresh Kumar.
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Spain announces terrorists
I am not sure which one is accurate but eitherway I offer extended apologies to all Spainiards on behalf of my countrymen who appear to be involved in this unfortunate incident.
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Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
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What I want to know is why the Religion or indeed the country of origin of those who committed this heinous act is relevent.
- Varun
Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
What I want to know is why the Religion or indeed the country of origin of those who committed this heinous act is relevent.
It is showing a interest in such irrelevent facts that begets religous and racial hatred ignorantly poported to be in response to this kind of attack.
Individuals, for their own reasons did this.
It isn't the work of any particular faith or nation.
They may be part of a group which "claims" to be allied to a particular faith or nation but anyone with any intelligence will I hope understand the falseness of that claim. Don't even being to associate blame on a Religion or even a country, keep it where it belongs, with the individuals who were truly responsible.
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Varun,
As per cnn it is Suresh Komar and not Suresh Kumar.![]()
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- Varun
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Seem to recall in another thread that you cut off all ties with your country of origin ?
Cap: From the thread title its clear that Paul desperately wants those Indians(and Hindus) to be involved in blast so that we can get many threads like "Hinduism and terrorism","Does Bhagwatgita teach terror?"
Angela: What I want to know is why the Religion or indeed the country of origin of those who committed this heinous act is relevent.
Manish: Let's keep this to those individuals and let's not generalize.
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I'm actually surprised that people want to keep the acts to the individuals once they realize that someone from their religion is involved.
- Varun
Originally posted by Varun Khanna:
It surprises you? Isn't that normal !!!
In the mentioned text you can replace the word "religion" with "family" , "community" , "club", "team" ........
and still it won't surprise me.
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I'm actually surprised that people want to keep the acts to the individuals once they realize that someone from their religion is involved. I am NOT saying that all Hindus are terrorists but to me it just seems so...
I have always stated that I believe Islam is not conducive to democracy and when I see / read about a fellow Hindu associated with such an act I feel ashamed but not ashamed enough to not apologize on behalf of my religion / people.
Didnt many of us complain why muslims are not forthcoming / did not apologize after the 9/11 attacks.. its so ironic to see many of us do the same when our community is involved!!! :sigh: :roll:
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Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
Anyone who complained that Muslims didn't apologise for the 9/11 attacks should also consider that the link between the Islamic faith that those attack was purely one made by those who carried out the attcks, they used the cover of their Religion. Anyone who does just a little bit of research would know that anyone following the faith purely and without any other agenda could never carry out such an attack, the religion of the attckers was irrelevent.
They were just people with an agenda!
It's honourable that you apologise on behalf of your faith/countrymen, but it's unneccesary! Do you understand what I'm saying?
I was baptised Catholic, the IRA are a Terrorist group made up of Catholic people that has attacked many times in Ireland and England, I do not consider myself associated with those people because we belong to the same religion. I know that what they do goes against the Catholic faith, and therefore their poported faith has nothing to do with their actions.
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
[QBI offer extended apologies to all Spainiards on behalf of my countrymen who appear to be involved in this unfortunate incident. I would have no problem if these people were executed and in public to make an example of them.[/QB]
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
I am sorry, I cannot and will not apologize on behalf of me, my religion (hindu) or for my country or for the 2 people of Indian origin that were arrested for the Spainish train tragedy.
Reason I refuse to apologize is because I will not accept the culpability of some Indians (whether hindu, muslim, christian, farsi, jew, sikh, buddhist, jain or any other faith) who may have blown up the trains. The 2 who did it were responsible, not me, not my faith, not India, not the Indian govt, not the Indian people.
Otherwise, it is 2 insane people who happened to be hindus.
When the Oklahoma federal building was bombed and it was determined that Mcveigh was responsible for that, did anyone demand that the christian leaders condemn this act? There was no need for that. Everyone knew that the christian faith does not condone this and Mcveigh didn't try to seek legitimacy to his terrorist act in Bible.[/QB]
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
but there sure are a lot of terrorists preaching Islam..
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I am reminded of an old adage - "Silence is often the sign of approval!"
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Amen! But others need to know that other Indians/Hindus feel that way.. get what I mean...
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I may be mistaken here but didnt Tim McVeigh commit the act under a white supremacist pretext, therefore what sense would it make for christian leaders to apologize for his acts?
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Secondly, Tim McVeigh conducted his crime on his own people and his own soil.. so there is a world of difference between the two acts. I wouldnt apologize if Vinay and Suresh blew up some train in India.. cos people in India know the entire context.
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I am very sure that the two, if found guilty, did not commit the act under the pretext of Hinduism but definetly for some other reasons such as money etc. But try telling that to Spaniards..
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
I didn't say that I don't condemn the blowing up of the trains. So, what am I silently approving, then?
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Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
The time when I did feel like apologizing was when 6 Dec Ayodhya thing happened.
- Manish
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Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
I'll speak for myself.
The time when I did feel like apologizing was when 6 Dec Ayodhya thing happened.
- Manish
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
And when Graham Staines was horrible murdered. That warranted an apology from every sensible hindu around the world because it was done in the name of hinduism and that tainted every hindu's life.
Kishore
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
My problem is actually with the Spanish minister who declared that 2 Indians of hindu origin were arrested. Why did he have to mention "hindu origin"? If 2 Britishers & 2 Americans had been arrested, would he have said 2 Britishers/Americans of Christian origin (if they were christians)? And would anyone have wanted other Brits/Americans/Christians to apologize for the actions of the 2 involved?
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I think it is significant that they were Hindus because of the suggestion that this incident is tied to Al Queda. It is newsworthy and the minister was right to mention it.
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Kishore
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
I am not sure I quite follow this. Are you suggesting that by mentioning the they were hindus meant that this could not have been AQ? Or are you suggesting that now AQ has hindu members in it?
Would it have been newsworthy if those 2 had been of any religion other than Islam & Hindu?
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
And when Graham Staines was horrible murdered. That warranted an apology from every sensible hindu around the world because it was done in the name of hinduism and that tainted every hindu's life.
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