This weeks Giveaway

[Sam Tilley]

Originally posted by Robert Gordon:
Well, I am based in London, and have checked with WaterStones, they can arrange the book for you. Similarly, you can get the book from Amazon.co.uk as well.

Hi Robert, you obviously did better than me as i did a search on Amazon.co.uk for SCWCD Exam Study Kit or other keywords and could not find it, and similarly i phoned up Waterstones for it and they couldn't find it either, by title or by author so if you could pass me the link it would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the reply Hanumant, after my vain searches for your book (Amazon.com have it but it seems not Amazon.co.uk yet) i instead bought the JWeb+ exam applet as i used it for SCJP and found it priceless in helping me pass, and on the plus side they had an pdf version of your book on offer till July 20th (but on the downside you can't print it to read it, which it seems is the same as buying the ebook from Manning ) as the next best thing. I thought about buying the Java 2 Web Developer but didnt get on with their SCJP guide so thought it might be a risky purchase.
Out of interest with microsoft trying to derail some aspects of using java on websites do you think more focus is being put on the server side area and if that will turn out to be the biggest area in the future (if it is not already there or there abouts)???
[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: Sam Tilley ]

[Tim Mikut]

I am hoping that SCWCD Exam Study kit will give me all that I need to study for this exam. Does it cover each Topic area in detail and give web site examples to test our skills?

[Vijay S. Rathore]

Hi Hanumanth,
How much tme fram eis needed to clear the exam if someone is familiar with java/jsp & servlets. Is your book more than enough to write the exam. Or do I have to work on something else also to get through the exam.
Vijay Singh Rathore

[Hanumant Deshmukh]

Originally posted by Tim Mikut:
I am hoping that SCWCD Exam Study kit will give me all that I need to study for this exam. Does it cover each Topic area in detail and give web site examples to test our skills?

Yes and Yes.

[Hanumant Deshmukh]

Originally posted by Vijay Rathore:
Hi Hanumanth,
How much tme fram eis needed to clear the exam if someone is familiar with java/jsp & servlets. Is your book more than enough to write the exam. Or do I have to work on something else also to get through the exam.
Vijay Singh Rathore

1. About a month.
2. No, you do not need anything else. Please see my previous replies in this thread.

[David Li]

How much tme fram eis needed to clear the exam if someone just has basic knowledge of jsp & servlets and can only spend one day/week to prepare?
[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: David Li ]
[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: David Li ]

[Garrett Smith]

How much weight do the Sun Certified Web Component Developer this hold in the industry? How does it compare with Sun Certified Java Programmer?
How much practical usage ability will I gain in the process of becoming certified?
Finally, is your book cenetered around "c:\" windows directories and installations?
Thank you,
Garrett

[Vedhas Pitkar]

Hi MR Hanumant Deshmusk,
I'm a SCJP aspiring to be a SCWCD.I really found the 2 pdf chapters of ur book & though I didnt really understand quite a few things (i'm new to JSP),I found ur book really interesting.After i finish studying a little bit of JSP,maybe i'll understand better.
Keep up the good work.
Vedhas Pitkar.

[Vijay S. Rathore]

Hi Hanumant Deshmukh, Jignesh Malavia and Paul Anil,
I am SCJP2 & SCJD2. And now after reading so much of reviews about your work am very excited about going for SCJWD also. I already got the exam objectives and the toc of your book.
Could you please provide us the link to your sample chapters also. I am not sure weather you have provided the link in the earlier replies or not.
Vijay Singh Rathore.

[Vijay S. Rathore]

Hi Hanumant Deshmukh, Jignesh Malavia and Paul Anil,
I Got It. Please Ignore my previous Posting.
Vijay Singh Rathore

[vivek mca]

Hi!
Can anybody please suggest that which book to go for a beginner for SCWCD and how much time it takes for the preparation?

[Vijay S. Rathore]

Hi Vivek,
There is no shortcut to anything. You have to read the entire thread. Believe me it's very useful. Once you put in time to read the entire thread you will really appreciate it.
Vijay Singh Rathore

[Roger Graff]

Are design patterns included in the book and are they covered on the exam?
Graff

[Bruce Jin]

Where to download the 2 sample chapters of this book?

[Vijay S. Rathore]

Hi Bruce,
Check this link
http://www.manning.com/getpage.html?project=deshmukh&filename=chapters.html
Vijay

[Kevin Thompson]

I downloaded the sample Chapters 9 & 14 from Manning, and I am running thru the examples tonight.
My question/comment for you: I previously purchased JWeb+ (which I like) and your new book SCWCD Study Kit (as outlined here) looks good.
It would be nice if you could produce the same sort of mock exam/book/StudyKit for the XML Certification. I don't see anything out there on the marketplace that does this(goes thru all the certification topics one by one and has example code & tutorial(like your SCWCD StudyKit).
After I complete the SCWCD exam, I wanted to do the XML certification - and I expect the lack of study materials to be a problem.
thanks!
Kevin Thompson

[Hanumant Deshmukh]

Originally posted by Garrett Smith:
How much weight do the Sun Certified Web Component Developer this hold in the industry? How does it compare with Sun Certified Java Programmer?

Please see my earlier reply.

How much practical usage ability will I gain in the process of becoming certified?

Believe it or not, but one this if for sure that in the process of studying for the certification you learn things that you would not know otherwise. This exposure allows you to think of multiple possible solutions to a problem. This in turn helps you implement the requirements in a possibly better way.

Finally, is your book cenetered around "c:\" windows directories and installations?

Most of the things have nothing to do with the platform. Also, the process or running the examples is exactly same in all the platforms. I think there is only one thing that is platform dependent - installation of Tomcat. So we have explained that for Windows.

[Hanumant Deshmukh]

Originally posted by Kevin Thompson:
I downloaded the sample Chapters 9 & 14 from Manning, and I am running thru the examples tonight.
My question/comment for you: I previously purchased JWeb+ (which I like) and your new book SCWCD Study Kit (as outlined here) looks good.
It would be nice if you could produce the same sort of mock exam/book/StudyKit for the XML Certification. I don't see anything out there on the marketplace that does this(goes thru all the certification topics one by one and has example code & tutorial(like your SCWCD StudyKit).
After I complete the SCWCD exam, I wanted to do the XML certification - and I expect the lack of study materials to be a problem.
thanks!
Kevin Thompson

Thanks a lot for the appreciation! We have received some really good feedback from customers of JQPlus and JWebPlus and so yes, XML is definitely on the cards. However, I am not sure when will we be done with that BTW, we have our regular jobs to take care of too

[Rashid Ali]

Thanks for all the information and for being with us and also for your precious time you had passed by answering our querries.
This is a good book for both beginners (as it contains 3 chapters for them) and others objective-wise chapters which clearly shows its valuability for those seeking for certification.
I would like to mention that this book is as useful as we find RHE book while preparing for scjp certification as it also included objective-wise description of the topics.
Thanks again.
Kind regards
Rashid Ali

[Vedhas Pitkar]

Hello Ranchers,
This is to the moderators.Their r some javascript errors on the http://www.javaranch.com page .Plz check it out coz it sounds very bad that a java site having javascript errors on it.

[Simon Brown]

Not wanting to hijack this thread, that page works fine for me, although I'm using IE 6. Which browser are you using?
I'll drop a note in the moderators forum for you...
Cheers
Simon

[Roy Cantos]

IMHO the SCWCD exam kit book is quite good one, i'm a SCJP 1.2 and 1.4 and i don't have any background in servlet and jsp, i have learn this technology from the SCWCD exam kit, although i have the SCWCD exam kit, i have ordered the more servlets and jsp from the amazon, and currently i'm comparing both, and my favorite is the SCWCD exam kit, since the chapters are based on the SCWCD objectives.
Actually i little get annoyed in more servlets and jsp when the author says that refer to the core servlets and jsp book chapter x, although from the preface it said that this is a sequel.
Currently, i'm preparing for the SCWCD exam and using the manning book as the main book and mpore servlets as supplement.
In conclusion i give the SCWCD exam kit 9.5/10 rating, is there anybody out there that that has the sybex and manning scwcd book?, could you please give some comment on both book?

[Roy Cantos]

IMHO the SCWCD exam kit book is quite good one, i'm a SCJP 1.2 and 1.4 and i don't have any background in servlet and jsp, i have learn this technology from the SCWCD exam kit, although i have the SCWCD exam kit, i have ordered the more servlets and jsp from the amazon, and currently i'm comparing both, and my favorite is the SCWCD exam kit, since the chapters are based on the SCWCD objectives.
Actually i little get annoyed in more servlets and jsp when the author says that refer to the core servlets and jsp book chapter x, although from the preface it said that this is a sequel.
Currently, i'm preparing for the SCWCD exam and using the manning book as the main book and mpore servlets as supplement.
In conclusion i give the SCWCD exam kit 9.5/10 rating, is there anybody out there that that has the sybex and manning scwcd book?, could you please give some comment on both book?

[Vijay S. Rathore]

Hi Hanumant Deshmukh, Jignesh Malavia and Paul Anil,

Unbelievable references for the book. CONGRATLATIONS on your work and good job done. Reading the unbelievable references, I have made my targets to clear the exam soon.
Vijay Singh Rathore

[Juanjo Bazan]

Hanumant, do you know if your book will be released (or have been released already) translated to spanish or any other lenguage other than english??

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
Hello Ranchers,
This is to the moderators.Their r some javascript errors on the http://www.javaranch.com page .Plz check it out coz it sounds very bad that a java site having javascript errors on it.

Who ever said that Java programmers are supposed to know JavaScript?

[Kevin Thompson]

Question for Roy Cantos:
How is is possible to be SCJP in 1.2 and 1.4?
The certification is for "Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform". There is no differentiation in certification for 1.2 vs 1.4. The title of the certification is exactly the same. The piece of paper is exactly the same. (To my knowledge)
What is the point in taking an exam once and passing(version 1.2), and taking the exam again and passing(version 1.4) - if you don't get "another" or a "different" certification - it is just the same exact thing you already have?
thanks
Kevin Thompson

[Simon Brown]

Interesting comment ... I've not seen the requirements for the 1.4 programmer cert, but how different are they? I remember that the jump in certs from Java 1.1 to Java 2 was (pretty much) that they added a few questions about the new collections framework.
At the end of the day though, I guess it means that you can say your certs are "more up to date".
Simon

[Kevin Thompson]

Simon:
But it can't mean that your "certs are more up to date" - because the certification for 1.2 says "Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform" and the certification for the 1.4 version says "Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform".
And if you took the exam twice, once in each version, it is not really something that is even verifiable. The pieces of paper say the exact same thing.
Maybe he took it for personal reasons. But from my point of view it is like getting your bachelors degree in computer science. Why do the whole thing twice? You only get credit and get recognized for ONE degree.

[Jignesh Malavia]

Hello Ranchers!
It has been a pleasant time reading the posts from so many people since two days. So let me start by thanking you all for your active participation in this give away.
Hanumant will be busy for the most part of the day and may not be able to get on the ranch. In the mean time, please do continue posting your messages and I'll try to answer them.
-j

[Jignesh Malavia]

Thanks for all the information...
This is a good book for both beginners...
-Rashid Ali
IMHO the SCWCD exam kit book is quite good one...
In conclusion i give the SCWCD exam kit 9.5/10 rating...
-Roy Cantos
Hi Hanumant Deshmukh, Jignesh Malavia and Paul Anil,
Unbelievable references for the book. CONGRATLATIONS...
-Vijay Singh Rathore

Many thanks for the compliments! :-)

[Jignesh Malavia]

Originally posted by Juanjo Bazan:
Hanumant, do you know if your book will be released (or have been released already) translated to spanish or any other lenguage other than english??

No the book is not released in any other language. To be honest, I personally never thought about that. But it is a good suggestion; we will forward it to Manning and let you know.
-j

[Marilyn de Queiroz]

The SCWCD Exam Study Kit is composed of the book and the CD, right? If someone buys the ebook, is the CD sold separately?

[Jignesh Malavia]

Originally posted by Marilyn de Queiroz:
The SCWCD Exam Study Kit is composed of the book and the CD, right? If someone buys the ebook, is the CD sold separately?

Yes, "SCWCD Exam Study Kit" is composed of the book and the CD. So CD will not be sold or mailed separately.
According to what I last heard from Manning is that those who buy the ebook will get to download the PDF file as well as the contents of the CD from their web site.
I'll request them to specify those details at http://www.manning.com/ebook_buy.html?project=deshmukh
-j

[taash mg]

hi hanumant,
i received a free copy of ur electronic book after buying jWeb+ and musy say it is a very focused and concise book. i immensely enjoyed reading it. i was wondering about the cd accompanying the book can be downloaded from a url ans then saw somebody else was searching it here too. i tried the url but after downloading the .pdf it doesn't open says file corrupt. can u help please
Thanks 'n' Cheers
Taash

[rajesh karmani]

Hello all,
Actually being jdk1.4 certified means he has given the jdk1.4 beta free exam though it is a.k.a Java2 platform. They dropped awt and io in the objectives and included Assertions. I am also certified in jdk1.4b.
Rajesh Kumar
SCJP2, SCWCD, UML(486), J2EE(483)

[seenu maj]

I want to purchase the study kit. Where can I get it from?( if I dont get the free copy that is. )
seen

[Jignesh Malavia]

Originally posted by taash mg:
hi hanumant,
i received a free copy of ur electronic book after buying jWeb+ and musy say it is a very focused and concise book. i immensely enjoyed reading it. i was wondering about the cd accompanying the book can be downloaded from a url ans then saw somebody else was searching it here too. i tried the url but after downloading the .pdf it doesn't open says file corrupt. can u help please
Thanks 'n' Cheers
Taash

There is only one PDF file for download from enthuware.com (the books's text) which you already have. If you are looking for the source code of the examples in the book, then they are at http://www.manning.com/getpage.html?project=deshmukh&filename=source.html. Is that what you were asking for? I am sorry, I did not get your question.
-j

[Jignesh Malavia]

Originally posted by seenu maj:
I want to purchase the study kit. Where can I get it from?( if I dont get the free copy that is. )
seen

Printed book from Manning
Printed book from Amazon
Printed book from Barnes & Noble
Printed book from Wal-Mart
Printed book from Booksite
Ebook from Manning
Free eBook from Enthuware
Or a free printed book from Javaranch right here if you are lucky :-)
-j
[ July 18, 2002: Message edited by: Jignesh Malavia ]

[Jackie Wang]

I am reading the SCWCD studying kit book
I want the source code so i went to
http://www.manning.com/getpage.html?project=deshmukh&filename=source.html
but they only have "some" example but not every single example? Is that right? anyone can help?
Thanks!