Lionel, We are glad to talk to you. This is not clear for Maha from your post. Did you take only 45 min out of the 2 hrs and came out of the Exam Room ? or you took 1hr :15 min for the first round and 45 min to revise ? Please reply. And some more input from your end regarding how you took the exam, in the sense were you tensed? or you didn't concentrate or you took it so lightly or you didn't look at the clock or you found the exam harder something like that. Beleive Maha I am not at all doubting your scores in the mocks? But this thing bothers Maha. Did you get 88% in the Rules roundup game in Javaranch? I think this game is pretty fundamentals, very simple and straight forward 1 or 2 line qstns. You should have got 100% ,if not atleast 96-98%. This is in my humble opinion. There are few qstns in this game which had to be re-worded and people brought into attention and they are in MOck exam errata forum and Paul also had changed them. Plese give us some more input from your end. Because I think I have to be careful while answering your qstn. I should not take anything for granted and should not answer making some assumptions and each person is different.It is very sensitive and I think I need to know some more info from your end before I help you. After your post I ask all our SCJPS and all out near future SCJPS to give a hand for you. Cheer up. FYI I know a person who failed in this exam first time and is a professional employee before the Exam and re took the exam and now the person is in a very very good postion . THis info is very much true info and I am giving this info to you to cheer you up and to give you an example of the practical world and the % in the exam and the special preparation we need to get good % in the exam . Please do not ask me who is that person. This person is not posted even a single message in this forum and I think I shdn't peek too much into other's business. And I am saying this just to cheer you up. regds maha anna
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Lionel, I think Sun has changed a lot of the questions now. There were some kind of questions I have not seen in mock exams. I admit I only use Marcus' Mock Exam, a little bit of Jxam, and a little bit of Bill Brodgen's. I haven't have time to look at other Mock Exams. Also under an exam condition, I got stress as well; otherwise I might get a few more marks (to be just in par with Maha). SCJP should be your first step towards Java certification. If you intend to take either SCJD/SCJA or both, there is not much point in resitting the test, unless you just want SCJP. After you got SCJD/SCJA, who is going to ask you how much mark you got for SCJP? Employers know you already have excellent Java skills. This is just my thought. Edward
Congratulations Maha!! I happened to visit this site after a long time ( I got certified in March and after that I have never visited) and found this thread. I am glad that I came across this thread, for congratulating you!! I was wondering when you will take the exam and was expecting you would get a very high score like Tony, but 93% is still a very good score. Good luck and thanks for your patient and elaborate explainations.
Hi there, this Lionel again. You are right Maha, I took only 45 minutes in the exam. I just could not concentrate because I started out thinking it's tough. But thinking back I feel it's easy. I dont go by any question paper released lately in the market that has been given as a mock, though I have practised and tried a lot of them and have literally hunted the net for more questions for the pleasure of learning. Rather I believe in concepts and practical usage of each topic in the certification. I had practically tried almost a lot of programs on the certification with simple programs to support a certain kind of statement an author states. And I had learnt a lot by the experience. The Ranch exams are ok. I score a minimum of 88% to a maximum of 97% in it at any given point of time without any preparation. Maybe its that I am not tensed at the time I take ranch or other mock tests (and I feel its just a program that has to be set right). But it makes me sad to have got just a 73% when I could have got the 90's and I know that i can do it. I am not boasting.No one at office believes that I got just a small score I have kept this as a secret form my Project Manager too, because he expects that I score nothing lesser than 80's. I am confused. I cant accept my poor performance, and further more if I have to take SCJD or architecture I will take time to learn and I have to live with this score till then. I am thinking of taking it again. Maybe you can send me some files just to test the validity of the sentences I said. To make matters worse I am in the interview panel of my company and I must be a jcp. If I tell this out, I got to face the shame or the pity of people who dont understand. And if I don't - I got to write it again. And this time I want to try for the big one ( the one and only 100) and prove it to myself that i can. [This message has been edited by Lionel (edited May 20, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Lionel (edited May 23, 2000).]
Lionel, Very very sorry for the delayed reply. This is Maha's 2nd post after a week. Now I understand where you come from. If I would have done like you (got up in 45 min) I am sure I would have failed, especially if I think other things behind my mind, what if something happens before the exam, what others will think of if I don't do well, why should I do this, like that. 45 min/with thinking the exam is tough and got 73% means I am sure you are capable of doing what you think you can do. Really. One more thing I got from Maha's life experiance as a professional and as a family women is , find out who you are, not to compare with others, we can compare sometimes but not to discourage ourself, I am not the only one I think what am I now, may be I didn't know of others in the whole world who are sailing in th same boat like that.. As a professional, we shd not put off by our emotional.Our intelligence doesn't play its role when emotion takes control over. Exactly pin-point what is your weekness. Think positively. The key here is when we know things, if something else stops us from showing it, we are the only one who exactly can pin-point the cause and beat to the ground. So these are the things we have to bear with if you want to achieve the 100%. You have to do the special prep which is needed for the exam point of view. I know apart from all that only experience specks in real life and the cert definitly improves out knowledge. Some people know the funda, but careless in applying that like myself I lost one qstn in operators and assignments. One more thing I think of useful here is , utilize the full 2 hrs. If you think logically, We are doing so much.... hard work for this 2 hrs only. Then its not wise , not to utilize them, especially if you aim for some good %. right? Who is going to bother if you used 2 hrs or 45 min. Only the score matters.So this is the key. Do the hard part. Try to practice to concentrate. Even if you loose concentration, try to get back to normal within 1 or 2 min. If you find a hard qstn, try to spend lesser time on that, because in the meanwhile if you think you are wasting time, some thing like that, definitly it is going to affect your concentration on the next qstn even if it is easy. So try to do more rounds of revising. Like you have to draw a line bet how you divide the whole 2 hrs, 1st round/2nd round/3rd round. I changed 2 qstns in the 2nd round of revising. Reason... marked the wrong answer, while thinking the other one is correct. If I would not have revised the 2nd time I would have lost 2 qstns while will reduce 4% on the total of what we get, easily. Also note that this exam is for 59 qstns, not 100 qstns. So we get points easily as well as loose also. If you gain a qstn you get appro. 2%, at the same time if you loose 1 we loose 2%. So bear this also in mind. One more thing to speed up ansering is use [i]process of elimination[i]. If an answer is wrong for a valid reason, just eliminate that and go for next ans, like that. I suggest if money is not prob. and you want really high score, if score is important for your profession, if you want to do it yourself, go for it 2nd time. Now do it wisely knowing what you did wrong in the first time. Definitly now you will have better experiance since you have already had the real exam experience once. you WILL GET THE BEST. I am glad you talked to us frankly.All these are from Maha's opinion. IF any other thing you want to ask ,you are welcome. I am always ready to hear and try to help. regds maha anna
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Hi Maha Congrats Maha... Maha - the "Queen" of Java - so maha whats ur future plans... before i forget.. maha could you just mention the different exams u took and their order of difficulty.. i think u r a genius so people are going to follow your steps.. this would guide the SCJP takers .. so that they could take their tests in the correct order... Congrats MAHA once again... and hey when is the treat Party time at the Ranch.... GoodLuck
It's always wonderful to see great masters like you doing it. Heartiest Congratulations But taking the test with such tremendous preparation You just might shatter confidence. Can we do it with a quarter of your knowledge?
Hey Maha, I am happy today because I got 100 in Ranch Rules Roundup. This is the second time once yesterday and just 5 minutes back. Guess I got to make this a habit in all the sites, but it feels great really to get the 100. I can send you the proof of the screen capture if you want it. Guess I will store it and keep it with me because it makes my morale feel better after I did badly in the sun exam
Hi Maha Anna ! Accept my heartfelt congratulations ! You can now call yourself Maha Maha Anna (Repeatation intended ) I am sure you will keep on contributing more and more ideas on this forum for the benefit of all of us. Tell us if you plan to go for SCJD or SCJA hereafter. Best luck for your plans. Lisa [This message has been edited by Lisa Raymond (edited May 30, 2000).]