Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
programming forums Java Mobile Certification Databases Caching Books Engineering Micro Controllers OS Languages Paradigms IDEs Build Tools Frameworks Application Servers Open Source This Site Careers Other all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
Marshals:
  • Campbell Ritchie
  • Paul Clapham
  • Liutauras Vilda
  • Knute Snortum
  • Bear Bibeault
Sheriffs:
  • Devaka Cooray
  • Jeanne Boyarsky
  • Junilu Lacar
Saloon Keepers:
  • Ron McLeod
  • Stephan van Hulst
  • Tim Moores
  • Carey Brown
  • salvin francis
Bartenders:
  • Tim Holloway
  • Piet Souris
  • Frits Walraven

SCJP so whats the point?

 
Bartender
Posts: 6663
5
MyEclipse IDE Firefox Browser Linux
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator


"hey now" if you are still on the forum



Yep hes still here.

The views posted are so wide that this thread might as well move to MD
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 138
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator
Hey Mr. hey now,

If you are still on this forum, then you need to know one more thing. If you think, since Swings are not on the exam you dont want to consider the exam as a big deal then tomorrow somebody else would come with another stupid name (perhaps like "hi then") and would say he likes the java.net package or some other one and it should be on the exam. This way the entire java package will be on the exam and its no more called a foundation course.However i do feel that the exam should be tougher than what is it now.

As far as putting the certificate on the resume, its up to your wish and will. Who cares whether you put it or not ?

Somethings needs to be taken with positive attitude which you are lacking.

Hope you understand this by being the one who is in need of this exam.

Regards,
Praveen
 
Greenhorn
Posts: 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator
Hi all,
This is my first post to this forum, while i was browsing on SCJP 1.5, I found that people are discussing about pros and cons of scjp. I have around 2 years of experience in java. Recently I changed my job and for the past 4 months, I am working for a different technology and not java, I am willing to switch back to java technology. In this regards, I thought it would help me if I complete SCJP to fetch a good job. But after reading the posts here, I am a bit confused as to whether taking the exam will add weight to my resume or not. I am sure it will add weight to my java knowledge. I am planning to take all the exams eventually. Please give your suggestions. It will help me.

thank you,
Chinnu
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 52
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator

Originally posted by Kavitha sp:
Hi all,
This is my first post to this forum, while i was browsing on SCJP 1.5, I found that people are discussing about pros and cons of scjp. I have around 2 years of experience in java. Recently I changed my job and for the past 4 months, I am working for a different technology and not java, I am willing to switch back to java technology. In this regards, I thought it would help me if I complete SCJP to fetch a good job. But after reading the posts here, I am a bit confused as to whether taking the exam will add weight to my resume or not. I am sure it will add weight to my java knowledge. I am planning to take all the exams eventually. Please give your suggestions. It will help me.

thank you,
Kavita.



Well. Other than the certification what really counts is your knowledge. If you are willing to take other exams as well and as you stated exam will add weight to your JAVA knowledge there is no reason to hesite.

Just go for it
 
Greenhorn
Posts: 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator

Originally posted by Kavitha sp:
Hi all,
..I am a bit confused as to whether taking the exam will add weight to my resume or not. Please give your suggestions. It will help me.



I think everyone here agrees passing is no easy task. Anyone who has taken the exam can appreciate what it takes to pass, especially those who have yet to pass. How did you find out about the SJCP? Have you ever sat in an interview and been told, "if only you had been certified we could offer you the position". Probably not, right? Chances are you found out about certification through a site intended for Java developers, where hiring managers probably wont be surfing. I believe it adds weight only if the hiring manager knows what it takes to actually pass the exam. Unfortunately, many hiring managers don�t even know what SCJP stands for.
 
Sheriff
Posts: 11343
Mac Safari Java
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator

Originally posted by Pritesh Nateshan:
... "hey now" if you are still on the forum...


"hey now" was not able to comply with the JavaRanch naming policy, so I believe that account has been closed.
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 36
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator
Wow! This is one long thread. But I feel the need to add my little 2 cents. I've been an engineer for about 7 years now and have written code in C, C++, Java, PERL, shell script, and just about any languages available today. I was also an employee at Sun Microsystem working at Milpitas campus (Silicon Valley) before the big RIF in early 2002. I graduated with a BS Software Engineer back in 2000. I'm now working on my MS CS at University of Maryland. On top of that, I'm planning to take my 1st SCJP 5.0 next month. What value would SCJP contribute to my resume, if I ever decided to change my job? Probably very little, being that any hiring manager would first look at my experiences and then my education background. The SCJP5.0 certificate tells my future hiring manager that I'm willing to take the time to study for the exam and spend my free time going to a testing center to test my current Java programming skills.

From personal experiences, I had the benefits of helping my project manager and lead engineer conduct several junior level SW Engr interviews. The first thing I look at is the candidate's knowledge level stated in their resume. Then instead of asking the basic fundamental questions, I jump into the level I think the candidate should know. If you put SCJP in your resume, I willn't bother with the basic Java stuffs. I'll jump into more difficult question and work my way down, until I fully understand the candidate actual engineer/IT skills. Usually, when I have to work my way down the knowledge level of the candidate, that person usually end up not getting the position he/she applied for. If the candidate can answer 3 or 4 technical questions without I'm having to move down the IT skill level, that candidate usually ended up with the job. We usually don't bother interviewing candidate w/o BS CS or SW Engr. Why? Because they don't have adequate fundmental understanding in software design and development.

Here's what my undergrad engineering professor told me. Software engineering is compilation of proven processes and methodologies. Java, C++, C, SQL, and many of the languages available today are nothing more than tools. Think of them as hammer and screw driver. A civil engineer can design a house and validate the structure integrity mathematically. The design is nothing more than blue print. Without the proper tool, a blue print of the house will never be built. Same with software engineer, one can put together a blue print of an application, but you do need to understand what tool you'll need to put that application together. Java is one of the tool that can help you put that application together. But, java may not be the best tool for the job.
[ September 07, 2006: Message edited by: Jay Suttiruttana ]
 
chinnu chinmy
Greenhorn
Posts: 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator

Peter Laurinec wrote:

Originally posted by Chinnu
Hi all,
This is my first post to this forum, while i was browsing on SCJP 1.5, I found that people are discussing about pros and cons of scjp. I have around 2 years of experience in java. Recently I changed my job and for the past 4 months, I am working for a different technology and not java, I am willing to switch back to java technology. In this regards, I thought it would help me if I complete SCJP to fetch a good job. But after reading the posts here, I am a bit confused as to whether taking the exam will add weight to my resume or not. I am sure it will add weight to my java knowledge. I am planning to take all the exams eventually. Please give your suggestions. It will help me.

thank you,
Chinnu.



Well. Other than the certification what really counts is your knowledge. If you are willing to take other exams as well and as you stated exam will add weight to your JAVA knowledge there is no reason to hesite.

Just go for it

 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 710
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Report post to moderator

chinnu chinmy wrote:

Well. Other than the certification what really counts is your knowledge. If you are willing to take other exams as well and as you stated exam will add weight to your JAVA knowledge there is no reason to hesite.

Just go for it



As much as we love encouragement, Please Don't Wake The Zombies. This thread has almost 3 years since the last post.
 
sunglasses are a type of coolness prosthetic. Check out the sunglasses on this tiny ad:
Java file APIs (DOC, XLS, PDF, and many more)
https://products.aspose.com/total/java
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!