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originally posted by Matt Cao:
IT does compensate for your experience and training, not all in monetary rewards. Read the company policy first before taking the plunge.


This thread is about IT professionals finding parachutes to engineer a safe landing. While people are having difficult time to secure a job, how many can afford to study the policies of various companies before accepting job offers?
Car mechanics are charging $60 - $70 for virtually 15 minutes of their work, which is about $240 - $280 per hour. And Matt Cao thinks it is the proper remuneration for their education and experience? Hmmm, I would like to study it carefully before I say that.
My point is if the salary of any field will properly compensate for what we "have invested" in our education and training in the face of fierce foreign competition?
 
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Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
Besides, they always inflate their time spent on my car. For example, I get charged one hour of their time for 15-minute their work according to my wrest watch. The IT salary does not compensate for our education and training!


And IT companies don't do the same?
I used to work as a consultant. Our minimal charge was for a day, no matter how long our people were on the job.
This was quite normal... My current company charges by the hour, but again there is a minimal charge even if the actual time spent is less.
 
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I have never worked on a contract. I only know that I have to put solid and un-inflated time at work to earn my salary. I have no knowledge about the way the company charges its clients. The extra profits go to the owner of the company.
I have never cheated the time I spend on the tasks that I have ever performed. I only want to earn honest money even I am exploited.
Now, you are telling me something that I really do not want to know.
 
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Plumber - easy and lucrative.
Hang on a dong minute! The Institute of Plumbing warned today that if the Government does not act to bring in compulsory registration of plumbers it could mean that the industry will become swamped with the next generation of cowboys. The huge skills shortage along with all the media attention focussing on unrealistic earnings for self-employed plumbers is creating a climate for unqualified plumbers to take advantage of the situation.
Doesn't that sound familiar ?
So what the government does is now the Water Company offers cover for your plumbing but extra cover is required to take care of Supply Pipe damages to the house ?
The Gas Board offers the same cover. Hidden extra charges ? May yet remember the friendly scallywag of a plumber with fond memories !
Seems you'd still need a plumber for fixing leaking taps - nothing that involves actual pipes, just washers and fittings. Long live the plumber.
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Plumber - easy and lucrative.
Hang on a dong minute! The Institute of Plumbing warned today that if the Government does not act to bring in compulsory registration of plumbers it could mean that the industry will become swamped with the next generation of cowboys. The huge skills shortage along with all the media attention focussing on unrealistic earnings for self-employed plumbers is creating a climate for unqualified plumbers to take advantage of the situation.
Doesn't that sound familiar ?
So what the government does is now the Water Company offers cover for your plumbing but extra cover is required to take care of Supply Pipe damages to the house ?
The Gas Board offers the same cover. Hidden extra charges ? May yet remember the friendly scallywag of a plumber with fond memories !
Seems you'd still need a plumber for fixing leaking taps - nothing that involves actual pipes, just washers and fittings. Long live the plumber.
[ January 15, 2004: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]



If you're talking UK plumbers (I think you're British), then the CORGI registered ones are the ones who make the big money. Its illegal for non-CORGI registered plumbers to touch central heating, and CORGI registration requires training and certification and has a governing body.
 
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Yes, British Gas employ a lot of CORGI-Registered people in their Service subsidiaries. I was just hoping to do away with the plumber and get my taps fixed under either the water company or British Gas. ( any parallels to programming ?)
But they don't touch fittings that the Home Owner has chosen. A plumber could charge anything between 50 pounds - 150 pounds to fix a tap. I wish I hadn't got the fancy ones that require special fittings.
 
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Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:

Car mechanics are charging $60 - $70 for virtually 15 minutes of their work, which is about $240 - $280 per hour. And Matt Cao thinks it is the proper remuneration for their education and experience? Hmmm, I would like to study it carefully before I say that.
My point is if the salary of any field will properly compensate for what we "have invested" in our education and training in the face of fierce foreign competition?


Hi,
If you drive Mercedes or BMW, you will be charged more...
Education and training is one thing, if you do not have experience and aptitude... you will not have the opportunity to work like that mechanic.
As long as he is not replaced old parts and claim as new and not perform the work and claim work has been done. He is untouchable under the laws.
Is there any law protect you an IT worker?
Regards,
MCao
P.S. I know a gal working at my local Mercedes Dealer as Consumer Engineer, when your car could not remember the profiles you created, she will fix it. From talking to her I found out she has CS Degree too. Her job duties are cleaner compare to the mechanic, but her paidcheck is not so heavy. But she told me she found the loophole in the dealership operation system, she will move to management instead.
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