Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
Exactly!!!
Problem solving ability has to be the most important thing to be tested.
- Manish
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
the purpose of the interview process isn't about finding the best candidate, it's about finding a good enough candidate in a reasonable time for a reasonable cost.
--Mark
Originally posted by pankaj shukla:
There is no dis-agreement on this. Problem solving ability or analytical bent of mind is one of the most important ability.
But then you don't measure all people from the same yardstick. Do you?
Everyone has a different role to play and most of the time developers are supposed to be smarter than their tester counterparts.
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
I'd say testers need to be smarter than developers. They have to find bugs that developers overlook, yet be capable of thinking down to the level of an average user in order to do the stupid things average users will subject an application to.
Originally posted by pankaj shukla:
most of the time developers are supposed to be smarter than their tester counterparts
Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
I'd say testers need to be smarter than developers.
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
https://www.thecareertoolkitbook.com/
Originally posted by pankaj shukla:
With all respect to your thoughts, I beg to differ. Finding fault in the system is always relatively easier than building the system. It applies to social systems and Software Systems are no different.
Originally posted by pankaj shukla:
atleast in India, developers are paid more than testers and the reason is obvious.
I have interviewed around 50+ people with average experience of 1.5 year for the post of Developer.
I asked them only 3 simple questions
(1)In System.out.println(), what is System? What is out? What is println?
(2)What is JVM, JDK, JRE?
(3)What is the Servlet life cycle?
Why not a single candidate was able to give convincing answers?
Are we running short of skilled worker? Or people don�t want to study concept in depth?
Originally posted by Sri Jad:
Ok if he answers all the above questions will that candidate get the Job???
Originally posted by Sri Jad:
If he gets that job will he be able to get atleast 50% of the billing rate that the company gets???
Originally posted by Sri Jad:
Its fortunate that he knows the purpose of System.out.println().And JVM, JDK, JRE are related to Java.
Originally posted by Sri Jad:
It takes hardly 10 mins to learn the above topics.Look at what he know and what he can do instead of what doesn't know , because no one is perfect...
Originally posted by Sri Jad:
How may people know what exactly is a operating System and how exactly it works(Like that there are so many things)..are we not using it in our daily lives??? This is the problem with Desi interviewers..
My blood is tested +ve for Java.
No, if he answers all three questions correctly then we start with advance topics.
These is the Indian Standard - not the International Standards.
The main purpose of interview is not to identify that one is perfect or not � but one has a knowledge / potential for the desired post or not.
If you have applied for the post of Java Developer, it is not necessary to know your above things. But if you have applied for the post in Network Department � you must know the basics of OS and Networking.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
the purpose of the interview process isn't about finding the best candidate, it's about finding a good enough candidate in a reasonable time for a reasonable cost.
--Mark
Originally posted by udaya bhanu:
That may be a personal experience. I have seen very compentent people in testing and being paid sometimes higher than others.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
(BTW, thinking of testers as second rate to developers is not unlike those business folk who consider developers second rate to business people.)
--Mark
Originally posted by pankaj shukla:
Again the demand and supply equation!!!
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