Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
First af all, why do you want to convince someone on something.
and then there way of convincing is so great that no one can say NO. How can someone say NO to Rs. 2 lakhs, when he cannot even earn Rs.10 a day.
I will also convert in to chirstianity if you pay me 100 million $. But as I am expensive, you go to lower market where in 100 million $ you can buy 1 lakh people.
Is it bussiness or religion ??
Ravish
food, clothes, education, money etc, missionaries do give all these things
Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:
I will not say that Muslims also suffered a lot because of Hindus, it was always a common man who suffered whether he was muslim or hindu just because of some selfishly coward people.
It easy to convert a hindu to other religion in comparison to muslim or christian, As you people are saying that it is due to economic reasons is wrong because you will find many of the moslims/christians/ in very bad condition but difficult to convert them to other religion
it is only because of castism untouchables, harijans all those have no social status in their religion they also want respect so they go for the other religion
Similar thing happened in a vilage in Jaipur (India) 100 muslims were converted to hindu by people of RSSS . It was not a forced conversion, they converted because they were not getting any social status by the moslims as they were practising some of the things which were against Islam.
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Whether I ask for help or not I will get help cause uncle Sam is out to help everyone![]()
Uncle Sam, plesae wait for my call, please dont help me when I am not asking for it.
Thanks for your help but no thanks. When I will need help I will get back to you.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Christianity/Catholicism dictates that you help people regardless of what their religious beliefs are, be they Hindu, Muslim or whatever,
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
forget everything, can anyone give me one good f***ing reason, even if I belive in some other religions philosphy, why should I change my religion ?
Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:
Tell me which religion in the world says do not help others ?
I also notice that several of you have been making wild claims as to the actions by these evil missionaries seeking to corrupt Indian culture.
Might I suggest you take the entire sentence next time so that you have my comment in the proper context.
Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:
Tell me which religion in the world says do not help others ?
Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
And frankly, if I were interested in helping the poor, why would I consider you their spokesman? Relief programs mostly try to get food and medicine to people who can't get it for themselves. It seems quite arrogant on your part to refuse such basic needs to others because your own principles might be offended.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Yeshwantpur
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
[QB]Something else interesting... All of you Indians complaining about the evil missionaries destroying your Indian culture ?
(which I thought was secular? hmmm...)
By the way, as to why missionaries come to your country to help out the needy.... I can't speak of all branches of Christianity, although I expect it is true, but Catholicism preaches that people should help the needy as Jesus did, and that includes doing missionary type work. So the reason they are doing this is that they believe in their religion (Christianity), and that religion dictates they help the needy. Christianity also dictates that believers should spread the word of Christ, so this is where the often baseless accusations of attempts at conversion come from. Missionaries are not always priests and therefore they cannot convert anybody (it takes a long time to become a Catholic and there are several steps and rituals that must be undertaken). I nkow a large number of the missionaries in India are Catholic, such as Mother Theresa was. So if you bothered to take the time to educate yourself, you would realize that at least Catholic missionaries sren't doing all that much conversion (not that it never happens, but it's a lengthy process).
Further, Christianity/Catholicism dictates that you help people regardless of what their religious beliefs are, be they Hindu, Muslim or whatever, so claiming that they be converted first is laughable.
The cold hard reality that you might not have the moral foundation to accept, is that some people help other people simply because it is the correct thing to do.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
<B>Prasad</B>
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Originally spewed by Pakka Desi:
blah blah blah blah
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Hitler or bin Laden couldn't have said it much better.
I'm just saying...it's right there!
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Originally posted by <slacker>:
Forced conversion to another religion like Christianity is a form of cultural decimation. Because it asks you to denigrate your own culture and land and asks you to swear allegiance to the Pope,Vatican and other strange sounding places like Bethlehem.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Your ignorance of these religions is staggering. Ignorance is what causes problems and hatred like you are preaching. Try ot actually educate yourself about that which you speak, because it is very obvious you haven't. Further, if you are going to make claims about all these things Christianity is supposedly doing in your country systematically and on a wide scale, at least attempt to provide some reference to back yourself up. Because really you people are coming off sounding very similar to Nazis, Muslim extremists, and other supremacist movements.
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Originally posted by Pakka Desi:
Or may be you are ignorant about what goes on in India?
These religion may preach peace and what not in US. We only know what they preach in India and that is what we are against.
Originally posted by Pakka Desi:
Of course, anybody who does not agree with you is either Hitler or Bin laden.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
So you keep saying. So show us some evidence to back up your claims of these wide scale and systemic activities that are supposedly taking place in the name of Christianity. I have requested it numerous times and you have yet to furnish any. In the absense of any evidence, it seems to be merely the exagerations of a supremacist.
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Originally posted by Pakka Desi:
I don't have any other proof
Who says nothing is impossible? I've been doing nothing for years
Originally posted by Pakka Desi:
They can easily verify my claims, just the way I did it for myself. I have lived in 5 states in India, from New Delhi to Tamilnadu and I have the first hand information about this.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Christians amount to less than 2.5% of the population of India. With all the other problems in India I think you can find something more serious to worry about. :roll:
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Christians amount to less than 2.5% of the population of India. With all the other problems in India I think you can find something more serious to worry about. :roll:
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Make visible what, without you, might perhaps never have been seen.
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As long as you believe that there are many ways to reach God you are a Hindu.
<B>Prasad</B>
I'm just saying...it's right there!
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