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What are your views on this ? I think it's unfair to punish England for not playing in Zimbabwe and should just reschedule the match in SA. Then again I'm biased !


Well, I do think rules hold the same fro everyone... When Indians were pressurised to sign the ICC contract about advertising , I thought that was unfair too
But rules are rules and everyone has to follow them I guess
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My views on England "refusing" to play in Zim.
Personally I think the Eng. players are just as safe in Zim as in SA, actually even safer.
If they refuse to play there because of political reasons, they should refuse to play Zim all together. Full stop.
If any team refuses to play, the opponent gets the 4 points.
So sorry England, you gave Zim 4 easy points, not that I think that wanted get them like that.
 
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Originally posted by Johannes de Jong:
Personally I think the Eng. players are just as safe in Zim as in SA, actually even safer.
If they refuse to play there because of political reasons, they should refuse to play Zim all together. Full stop.


There's something in that. It is quite amusing to consider the debate from a safety perspective. The recent debacle has promoted SA to rather unrealistic safe-as-houses standards, when it is quite obviously not
From a political view point I agree. Either everyone plays there (or those scheduled to anyway) or none at all. It's a pity that these types of decisions throw a certain image on the team as a whole, whose players in reality want nothing other to do that get a bit of bat on ball!
 
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Well ICC has not been doing a great job lately. First they come up with a wierd advertizing contract policy.
Then they make penalize England team for not playing in Zimbabwe. Since the game is not being played the best thing to do would be to spilt the point between the two teams.
 
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There are two schools of reasoning for England avoiding to go to Zimbabwe...
1) Its the safety thing,
2) Its the present regime in Zimbabwe at the helm
Playing there would imply that they support the regime.
Any thoughts ?
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Originally posted by Sri Sri:
There are two schools of reasoning for England avoiding to go to Zimbabwe...
1) Its the safety thing,
2) Its the present regime in Zimbabwe at the helm
Playing there would imply that they support the regime.
Any thoughts ?
Sri


Well the English government put pressure on the cricket team not to play because of political reasons. However I feel this was merely for show as they were not willing to pay any money for breaches of contract.
The England team and the ECB's only reason for not playing that they have given is for safety.
The ECB has done very poorly due to the fact that they only showed the English team the death threat letter 3 weeks after they received it. This was very bad, this issue could have been sorted much earlier. I think there maybe some political manouverings going on behind the scenes and perhaps safety isn't the only real reason...Still the ECB sucks !
It seems quite harsh on the England cricket team - they themselves have done nothing wrong. Personally I would be wary to play in such a media circus and the death threat hanging over their heads.
If there was going to be trouble at any match it would be versus England due to the history of the two nations. Taking this into account, the ICC could easily have rearranged the match to occur in SA.
At the end of the day it's a shame and the game of cricket is the loser...
I think it would be fair if either the points were split or the game was replayed in SA. Then again I incredibly biased !!
Still I took a day off to watch the game and it turns out I have a 2nd interview with a Barings for a quality job... so every cloud has its silver lining.
COME ON ENGLAND !
Tom.
ps. Australia are the best team, they'll miss Warne but still, they are the best tean. They are that good.
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I think England is waisting everone's time. They should decide soon or else loose 4 points. that's it!!!
 
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Rhodes is out of World Cup
World cup lost the best leg spinner two days back and now it lost the best fielder. How sad!
 
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Originally posted by R Manivannan:
Rhodes is out of World Cup


Very true. One of my heroes, Jonty Rhodes. I had the pleasure of meeting him last year in Durban in South Africa. Terrific sportsman. He was apparently also one of the country's top hockey players and was obliged to choose between the two codes. A true role model for the young sports people of South Africa.
I believe he has now also retired from ODI cricket altogether. I guess he will always be remembered best for that awesome flying-dive run-out of Inzamam-ul-Haq during the '92 WC.
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Rhodes has really become an epitome of good fielding. Its really bad to see some of the best players of the tournament biting the dust
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Yes sad that he can't finish his career with a place in the final. He deserved it.
 
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Looks like we are going to have a surprise entry to Super Six. KENYA!
They just scored 4 points against Sri Lanka, and if they win their next match, against Bangladesh, they will have 16 points and into Super Six!
[ February 24, 2003: Message edited by: Ashok Krishnan ]
 
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Originally posted by Ashok Krishnan:
if they win their next match, against Bangladesh, they will have 16 points and into Super Six!


Do you have doubts ??
 
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Nope 16 points won't automatically get them in the super six. It could happen that Sri Lanka, New Zealand, South Africa & Kenya end up on 16 points. Then run-rate will decide which 3 will go through.
But then Kenya could win both their remaining games & end up winning the pool with 20 points.
Now won't that be fantastic
 
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Originally posted by Johannes de Jong:

Now won't that be fantastic


That would be brilliant. Well, at least in that case India could win against them in Super Six and add some valuable points.
Well, some wishful thinking there - for this first of all India should make it into Super Six, and then we can be sure about Indian team to win against not Kenya, but even Vatican City (if all the priests form a cricket team, under Pop's Captaincy, that is)
Ravish, I think what we need is a SUPER FIX!
[ February 24, 2003: Message edited by: Ashok Krishnan ]
 
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I see Kenya reaching the super-six as their moment in the sun.
As much as I support South-Africa & the Netherlands in all their sport endeavours, yep I'm one of those with two countries , I'd trade their win any day to see one of the more underprivileged countries win, be it in world cup cricket, soccer, rugby, Olympics whatever.
Imagine the pride these Kenyans felt yesterday, man I'd give my left... to have been there to see their joy.
 
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Moms worry as India does better at World Cup
 
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Originally posted by Johannes de Jong:
I see Kenya reaching the super-six as their moment in the sun.


Agreed.
Go Kenya!
 
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The English are in shambles
106/6
another 145 in 21.3
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107/8. I feel for them. :roll:
 
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Great Performance by Ashish Nehra...
I guess India are into super sixes
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India has won 168 for all
Is it the effect of Lagaan
Is India in Super Six ??
 
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Well done India!
 
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yuo India is in super Six!
 
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Its good for India that they won against England.. While the win was very much welcome, I am concerned about te middle order. Ganguly and Mongia were clearly struggling today.. against the English Attack.. ...
Nehra was very impressive. More than anyone else i think he turned the match for india single handedly..
Indias fortunes are now ...
Wish all the very best of luck to Indian team for the match on Saturday.... Big one there
Although they are in Super six AFAIAC Saturday is THE MATCH ....GO INDIA GO ...
 
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Congrats India
 
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Originally posted by vi kam:
Although they are in Super six AFAIAC Saturday is THE MATCH ....GO INDIA GO ...


If history repeats itself then not to worry much.
BUt as India has won two consecutives mathes, I doubt that there will be hatrick
 
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It is a joy to watch Sachin playing like the old days.
Nobody has challenged Sachin and go unpunished (save only McGrath) and Caddick was no exception yesterday.
He comments there is nothing special about Sachin and look at the treatment he received!
Six 4s and a 6 in Caddick's bowling alone. Brutal!
 
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This is impressive! This is the greatness of cricket.. of any sports indeed!
Excerpts from this
"Ashish holds Wasim Akram in very high esteem. He speaks to him regularly and seeks his advice on bowling. Wasim calls him at times when Ashish is home," says Nehra's father who dreams of seeing his son bowl like the Pakistani veteran.

Cheers!
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Australia rout Namibia .... Australia won by 256 runs .... Sad really .. Poor namibians.. :roll:
 
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Originally posted by vi kam:
Australia rout Namibia .... Australia won by 256 runs .... Sad really .. Poor namibians..


Yup, its all about winning these days. I'm not sure why Australia had to field a full-strength team against Namibia. I wonder how teams like Namibia, Canada, etc feel about being used as cannon-fodder for the stronger teams to flex their muscles on.
I'd prefer to watch the matches between some of these lower-order teams. The odds are a bit more even, there is a sense of competition, but the game is played with a far better attitude and spirit than their contemporary glory-hunting teams.
 
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Professionalism ( read ruthlessness ) has become part of the game. Cricket is no more a gentleman's game
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WI lost to SL. West Indies is out of the contest now.
I think SL, SA and Kenya will qualify for the super six from Pool B.
From Pool A, it is going to be Australia, India and Pakistan/Zimbabwe.
 
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The mother of all duels is about to start in a few hours
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fingers crossed
 
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whatz happening man..we need to take haq out..he is killing us....
 
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274/7 ..thats some chase..
 
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Yeah. And how beautifully it was chased
 
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