Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Everyone's favorite source editorializes:
Now all of this information "Talking Points" is giving you is solid. It is fact, not opinion.
The Bush administration strikes back against the deceptive media...
...the 9/11 Commission is being used to tarnish the Iraqi effort....
...Anti-Bush zealots are hurting the fight against terror by misleading Americans about what's actually happening. That puts all of our lives in danger...
...Now I knew when I presented the facts linking Al Qaeda to Iraq that the far left would accuse me of shilling for the president...
..That opinion, of course, is nonsense...
...But those facts will not matter to the anti-Bush fanatics, who put partisan politics ahead of both truth and national security...
As you know, we're independent here
Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
What is Putin so desperate about?![]()
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Originally posted by Joe King:
The sad thing is that there are probably some people who read Fox "News" and think that its actually a neutral, factually correct and politically neutral depiction of the world.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Name one major news source that fits the above description. Hell, the BBC is far worse than Fox ever is, just to name but one. The New York Times is another that quickly comes to mind. He does specifically say the inormation is fact. Opinions are not information, therefore he is not claiming that his opinions are fact as alledged.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
Like it or not, Kerry is a danger to the world
and an active supporter of communist regimes.
Under him it wouldn't be too long to see the USSSA (United Socialist Soviet States of America) rise.
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
So something Kerry said 33 years ago is construed as "active" support of Communism?
Originally posted by Joe King:
The sad thing is that there are probably some people who read Fox "News" and think that its actually a neutral, factually correct and politically neutral depiction of the world. I can imagine Comical Ali fitting in well as a Fox presenter.[/QB]
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I think the original quote was "active supporter of Communist regimes", but anyway... I guess it depends on one's perspective. Would you consider Jane Fonda's actions during Vietnam active support for North Vietnam?
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I think the original quote was "active supporter of Communist regimes", but anyway... I guess it depends on one's perspective. Would you consider Jane Fonda's actions during Vietnam active support for North Vietnam?
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Name one major news source that fits the above description.
Hell, the BBC is far worse than Fox ever is, just to name but one.
He does specifically say the inormation is fact. Opinions are not information, therefore he is not claiming that his opinions are fact as alleged.
[ June 22, 2004: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]
...deceptive media...
...Anti-Bush zealots are hurting the fight against terror by misleading Americans about what's actually happening. That puts all of our lives in danger....
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Not long ago, I was a rabid anti-Fox News "activist". But over the last 12 months I have realized that FOX is the only unbiased news source in USA.
When you disagree with FOX, I know you are a liberal.
Liberals cant stand FOX and best of all, they cant stand the fact that FOX has more viewers than any other cable news network.
Long Live Rupert Murdoch!!!
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Many news programs on all the major news networks have become opinion shows because they get good ratings.
Originally posted by Joe King:
This is sadly a sign that many people prefer to be told what opinion they should have rather than look at the evidence themselves and make up their own opinion. Its probably much the same reason why trashy tabloids like the Sun are popular. (A damning indication of the intelligence of the average Briton is that the UK's most popular paper is the Sun)
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Originally posted by Joe King:
Unbiased?! How bad can the rest be then? Fox news is about as unbiased as Comical Ali.
Interesting logic there. Although I can see that liberals wouldn't agree with Fox, I think a lot of other people would also disagree, namely anyone who doesn't like listening to news that has a clear right wing bias.
Maybe its because people who voted for Bush like to see a news programme that makes him look good. That way they don't feel as if their vote was a mistake. Fox also has a very patriotic feel to it, and this again makes viewers feel good. Perhaps Fox could be seen as a good thing for keeping the nation's moral high during war time, but personally I'd rather see an unbiased report of the news, even if it made me feel bad.
the American right is incredibly liberal in the field of economics.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
The O'Reilly Factor is an opinion show. It is not meant to be an unbiased program. Many news programs on all the major news networks have become opinion shows because they get good ratings.
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I think you are confusing the term liberal with libertarian. American economics are certainly libertarian. Liberal economics would mean a welfare state..
Originally posted by Warren Dew:
How does "liberal" differ from "left" in England? I may be making a lot of faulty assumptions about the Liberal Democrats....
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
I dont know if you have ever seen the news on CBS, NBC, ABC.. but they are pretty much to the far left. A few examples; they have not reported anything good about the war in Iraq. They have not mentioned even one of the hospitals or schools that were constructed by the coalition but let an innocent Iraqi die in the crossfire and they will make it seem as though the entire nation is in furor. They have not reported anything about the economic recovery in the US, they only report the unemployment claims.
Originally posted by Steve Wink:
Actually, I think you'll find that ALL media in the free world will concentrate on the negative, because negative stuff sells. People are interested in wars, crashes etc. This may be partly because good things tend to be mundane, ongoing, everyday things - like people helping eachother, doing their jobs. Bad news tends to be more spectacular, such as a train crash or earthquake or gun battle.
I dont know if you have ever seen the news on CBS, NBC, ABC.. but they are pretty much to the far left.
Give me one example of right wing bias..
...Anti-Bush zealots are hurting the fight against terror by misleading Americans about what's actually happening. That puts all of our lives in danger...
...But those facts will not matter to the anti-Bush fanatics, who put partisan politics ahead of both truth and national security....
...but I'm getting awful tired, awful tired, of the far left lying and endangering us all...
You wouldnt want to even consider the option that perhaps people feel FOX reporting is really unbiased and fair??
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Joe King,
Have you ever watched Fox News? You didn't seem to know who O'Reilly was and the type of show he puts on, which is why I ask. If you have not really spent much time watching them, I would ask how can you justify the statements you have made about them?
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