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Just as a reminder to everyone -- posts in this welcome thread are not eligible for the drawing. If you have any questions for Khalid or Rolf, please start a new topic.

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nav katoch wrote:Hi Khalid,

Thanks for your time sharing through this thread. I have heard a lot about your book at work and in this forum as well. To be very frank, the price range is not affordable to most of the people per my opinion. Could you please give a second thought regarding the price? I will highly appreciate your comments. I would like to buy your book if reasonable price or discount is offered. On the other hand, most of the people have lost their jobs or are losing jobs due to lay-offs. I hope you will consider this point in your discussion.

Thanks again,



As far as the price is concerned, we have as much control over that as the US goverment has over Wall Street.
The publisher decides the price. Authors only get a small royalty.
Certification books are a lot cheaper compared to intro texts for Java programming used in courses at colleges and universities.
Authors too have to make a living. :-)

It is also worth considering how your investment in SCJP pays off in the end.
Actually I would say it usually pays off handsomely. :-)
 
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Christian Kindler wrote:Can I use the included moc exam on any operating system (which has a java jre)? The exams that come with the K&B book are useless on a non-windows computer, which is a little bit "suboptimal" for a book which covers a platform independent language...



Of course you can run our mock exam on any machine that has JRE installed, as it is written in Java.
Check it out from the book web site.
 
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As far as the price is concerned, we have as much control over that as the US goverment has over Wall Street.
The publisher decides the price. Authors only get a small royalty.
Certification books are a lot cheaper compared to intro texts for Java programming used in courses at colleges and universities.
Authors too have to make a living. :-)

It is also worth considering how your investment in SCJP pays off in the end.
Actually I would say it usually pays off handsomely. :-)



Hi Khalid,

Thank you so much for your reply and this concern. I will definitely try to buy this book and may be I will get back to you with some fruitful feedback as I haven't read or referred your book in the past.
 
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Hi khalid,

Besides reading page by page, can you tell me a study plan that will maximize the learning experience and match the structure of your book?

- Armando
 
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Dear Khalid & Rolf Sir,

Wish you all the best for your new book.

and hope that your book will Rock in SCJP world...

Chaitanya
 
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Hi Khalid Sir,

patt rich wrote:I am planning to take the SCJP exam sometime soon. I was preparing myself to take the SCJP 1.5 certification. Now that this book is going to be available, I am wondering if I should take the 1.6 certification. Any suggestions friends?

BTW, the book is available right now: http://www.amazon.com/Programmers-Guide-Java-SCJP-...&s=books&qid=1240332551&sr=1-1

Why go for an exam that is soon deprecated?
Go for SCJP 1.6 by all accounts.

Is it true that SCJP1.5 is going to be deprecated soon?? when because i have done my SCJP1.5. so will it have any credentials after its being deprecated???
Do i need to take SCJP1.6 now???

Well sir. as for your book is concerned. when i started learning java. i thought it was very tough. untill i read your book Programmers guide for java SCJP for 1.4. it cleared all my basic concepts and later on i read the Kathy and Bert bates book for SCJP and cleared my exams. Which was relatively easy for me as my core concepts were cleared thanks to your wonderful book and ofcourse Kathy and Bert bates.

BTW: when it will be published in India.
 
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armando fonseca wrote:Hi khalid,

Besides reading page by page, can you tell me a study plan that will maximize the learning experience and match the structure of your book?

- Armando



[This reply is also posted in another thread.]
Here are some rough guidelines.
I suggest you familiarize yourself with the exam objectives first (Appendix B).
Then read up on topics you know the least about (there are references from the exam objectives to the topics in the book), and reinforce these by doing the review questions for these topics.
As you get to the topics that (you think) you know a lot about, start with the review questions first to gauge how much you know.
Finally try the mock exam -- and some more mock exams from the net -- until you are confident.
IMHO, without practicing answering the review questions, it is very hard to clear the exam.
Good luck!
 
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pravin shirke wrote:

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Is it true that SCJP1.5 is going to be deprecated soon?? when because i have done my SCJP1.5. so will it have any credentials after its being deprecated???
Do i need to take SCJP1.6 now???
...

BTW: when it will be published in India.



I would not worry about upgrading if you already have SCJP 1.5. Not worth the effort.

I have no idea when the book will be available in India.
I will check with the publisher, and post the info on the book web site.
 
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I used your book for 1.5. It is well organized. One concern though, lot of people just go thru question [ illegal material ] and clear the exam. What do you think about it? Should you provide that also as part of the book?
 
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Hi, i have A Programmer's Guide to Java SCJP Certification 1.4 book. How can i get the latest version 1.6 of this book.
 
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Praveen Kumar V wrote:Hi, i have A Programmer's Guide to Java SCJP Certification 1.4 book. How can i get the latest version 1.6 of this book.



I am afraid I do not quite understand your question.
The book is available in all fine bookstores.
Just get it from your favorite bookstore. :-)

PS. Mind you, if you are in India, I understand it is not available there yet. And I have no information about that.
 
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James Dutt wrote:I used your book for 1.5. It is well organized. One concern though, lot of people just go thru [ illegal material ] and clear the exam. What do you think about it? Should you provide that also as part of the book?



We believe that proficiency in the language should naturally lead to clearing the exam.
That is what our book provides for you.
I don't believe in short cuts.
My teacher at school used to say, "A short cut is a along cut." :-)
 
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Welcome Khalid Mughal & Rolf Rasmussen. I haven't read your book so far. Will try it, if I win a book
 
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Hello, Khalid A. Mughal & Rolf W. Rasmussen.
Congratulations for such a excellent book on SCJP6.0.
I appreciate for your effort for making such a study guide.
This study guide will definitely help to everyone.

I gone through following URL
http://www.ii.uib.no/~khalid/pgjc3e/
I read information given on website.


Would you include explanation about lexical translation which is given in Java Language Specification 3.0. You can include it in appendix section at the end of book.
It will help to find out how java compiler think about java code to show error during compile time.



I will explain with a following small java code



I think knowledge of lexical translation will help to understand how java compiler think about java code.
This is only a suggestion from my side.

If I made any mistakes in this post reply please notify me about that I will rectify it.

Best Wishes for your SCJP6.0 Study Guide
 
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Hi guys, just as a reminder, posts in this welcome thread are not eligible for the drawing. Please post your questions in the SCJP forum.
 
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Extremely sorry to post question/suggestion in this welcome thread.
I started a new thread in scjp forum to post a suggestion for a book.
 
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Welcome Khalid Mughal & Rolf Rasmussen (though I'm little late ). Great to have both of you here.
 
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Dear Khalid,
I consulted only your book (for SCJP 1.4 certification) 3 years back and score 92%
Thanks for writing such a wonderful book. This is not just a certification book, but a reference book also. I still consult it for java basics.

I would surely buy your SCJP 1.6 guide soon.

Since I have read the SCJP 1.4 book many times, I would like to give a feedback on it (I hope 3 years ain't not too late )
Your writing style is very clear for guys who have some basic knowledge of Java. But for those Java starters who start reading your guide directly, things would not get that clear easily. e.g. why and where should abstract classes be used ? what is the practical use of interfaces ? where to use which type of Collection ? I feel that if you give some emphasis on practical aspects of Java Basics then your book would be appealing to both Java starters as well as those preparing for SCJP exam.
 
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Shiraz Khan wrote:
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Since I have read the SCJP 1.4 book many times, I would like to give a feedback on it (I hope 3 years ain't not too late )
Your writing style is very clear for guys who have some basic knowledge of Java. But for those Java starters who start reading your guide directly, things would not get that clear easily. e.g. why and where should abstract classes be used ? what is the practical use of interfaces ? where to use which type of Collection ? I feel that if you give some emphasis on practical aspects of Java Basics then your book would be appealing to both Java starters as well as those preparing for SCJP exam.



To a certain extent we have tried to follow your suggestion in the third edition.
I agree with your assement of the previous version.
 
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I want to thanks to Khalid Mughal & Rolf Rasmussen for SCJP books.

I started learning Java from Complete Refernce, spent 5 months to finish it and I thought that my Java knowledge is very good.
Then I read few pages of SCJP 1.2 book by Khalid Mughal, and I was shocked, withdraw my cert taking date, read SCJP book & then took the exam.

thanks for SCJP book.

Will start with SCJP 6 book by Khalid Mughal & Rolf Rasmussen soon.

Reagrds.
 
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I think this book is going to be great help for the individuals those who are preparing for SCJP

Kudos to the author
 
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Hi there Khalid Mughal and Rolf Rasmussen. Glad to have you between us! And also glad that I have the chance to get that copy , btw this was the honey pot to get me registered on javaranch lol.
 
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hi,
I have passed SCJP 1.5 with a good score 97% and want to prepare for scjp 1.6. Any idea how much time would it take for preparation?It would be best answered by people who have already given the SCJP 1.6 exam.

thanks
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mayur dhawan wrote:I have passed SCJP 1.5 with a good score 97% and want to prepare for scjp 1.6.


But why?
 
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I'm also preparing for SCJP. Let me try too.

Thanks,
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Just ordered the book online. Hope I'll enjoy the book.
 
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