Paul Clapham wrote:It seems to me also that it was easier to do programming in the old days. It's not that hard to write code which goes through a file sequentially and summarizes it into a printed report, really.
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Paul Clapham wrote:
Throughout my career I have often found I had to redo the work of substandard programmers.
Ahmed Bin S wrote:
Paul Clapham wrote:
Throughout my career I have often found I had to redo the work of substandard programmers.
Did it annoy you?
Ahmed Bin S wrote:
Paul Clapham wrote:
Throughout my career I have often found I had to redo the work of substandard programmers.
Did it annoy you?...
Out on HF and heard nobody, but didn't call CQ? Nobody heard you either. 73 de N7GH
That was me a few years ago. My wife needed a website for her business, a friend showed me WordPress, and I started playing. I stumbled into a HTML/CSS/PHP forum, met a fantastic developer who really mentored me. Eventually, I decided to go back to school to learn PHP. Through a twist of fate, the technical school required me to learn OOP Design (using Java) before they would let me take PHP. Two courses of Java later, I knew I had found something I'd been missing for a long, long time - passion. So, don't assume they don't want to be a student - they just may not know it yet. You have no idea where your mentoring will lead.Les Morgan wrote:Then there is the guy that comes in and is not a professional, not a student and doesn't want to be, but decides that he wants to make something cool for his friends to see.
In many of my entry-level courses, there was a group of students who were there because their parents made them. Or, they thought their thumb dexterity from the PS4 would translate to programming. There was also a group of recent CompSci university graduates who couldn't land a job without real world-like language experience - those were my favorite to hang out.Les Morgan wrote:I see we have many students come in here, and I am of a mind to help them, but not give them a coded answer--no matter the dire outcome they face. They may get some example code to help them on their way, but I really believe that if they do not have the wherewithal to complete the assignment from their own genius, after seeing how to do it, then they need to drop out and find something else to do.
Like I said, I went back to school to learn a bit of PHP and ended up falling in love with Java. Of course, that also meant learning SQL, XML, JS, REST, SOAP and all the sub-parts/facets of Java (JPQL, JPA w/ Hibernate, Spring MVC). Does the feeling you don't know enough ever go away?Paul Clapham wrote:It seems to me also that it was easier to do programming in the old days.
Chris Barrett wrote:
Does the feeling you don't know enough ever go away?
Out on HF and heard nobody, but didn't call CQ? Nobody heard you either. 73 de N7GH
Chris Barrett wrote:Does the feeling you don't know enough ever go away?
Chris Barrett wrote:
Does the feeling you don't know enough ever go away?
Out on HF and heard nobody, but didn't call CQ? Nobody heard you either. 73 de N7GH
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