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Tim Holloway wrote:

Harry Kar wrote:
I actually live in a Mediterranean place where salaries are really negligible for the majority of people here and taxes are sproportionately very high.

So, Greece? )

Tim wasn't so difficult the quiz isn't? the characteristics are alas clear and straightforward Yes there's my actually place (except if you know another place with > 6K islands etc)  

But I thought most such countries people deal with high taxes by dodging them.

Long story short you're right but that's not the correct way to go and I put the responsibility to the state (top down approach--mean system-- not bottom up--mean not individual--). The proof is : an individual who goes to live in another(more organized) state conforms to new states's laws and above all is happy wirh his new state; when the same individual returns to his crappy system start behave as before(with some additional problems because now know the difference between a good system and a bad system)

That's a very interesting theme for discussion we can write a tome about it so let's discuss it in another occasion.      

Harry Kar wrote:Actually climate is cold (4°C outside) we're in winter and humidity is relatively high(i hate high humidity I wasn't able to live in a city e.g.  Palermo Sicily without air-conditionig; there you have 70-90%  and 35-40°C in summer impossible to cope with without some aids like an air conditioner; likewise in the winter temperature is not too low but humidity "lower it" too much  . I remember when was younger a place near Vienna Austria dunno what humidity was(very very low) back then but impress me the fact that i needed only 3 hours of sleeping to equate the normal 7-8hours; i loved that)

Yep, sounds like Florida, the State that Air Conditioning Made Possible.

It really is the humidity, not the heat. The record high temperature for Tampa, for example, is only 99°F. Or at least it was until recently. All bets are off now. But you can die from the insufferable heat in Tampa. Afternoon rains up here are usually about 5PM. Down there, it always seemed to simply get hotter and hotter - and muggier and muggier - as the sun went down until the whole world was a steaming dark blanket.

It's about 4°C outside right now. We're at the bottom of a cold snap and it's just about dawn. Although normal around here in the previous century would have been closer to 0. I used to expect the first serious freeze about December 24. Last year, I think I ran air conditioning in January. If not, at least was severely tempted to. And I like it a lot warmer than most people.

Actually I live in North Greece in a region called Macedonia( the real one not the fake one=FYROM see also  FYROM naming dispute. The Actual  Greek government is in process to give they a new name "North Macedonia" dunno why(my idea is because some strong states  US, Germany, Russia support them for some politico-stategic reasons and press to that direction for three decades so far) --historically not fit at all-- but that's it  ) Great Alexander's land and climate is like FL's as i can understand(near half December to March we've normally snow here). And yes humidity is a great enemy

Harry Kar wrote:Hopefully here in EU we haven't all that bad(and dangerous) natural phenomena thunderstorms, hurricanes and the likel and yes beaches are here too nice places ever and above all you can find beaches with warm waters too (i remember Atlantic was too cold for my taste) ;)

It's warmer on this side. The Gulf of Mexico is one big shallow solar-heated bathtub. Warm water leaves it and wraps around Southern Florida, passing up the state in the Gulf Stream, and eventually makes Europe a lot warmer that its latitude would otherwise warrant. Most Atlantic hurricanes come from either the Sahara or from the Southern Caribbean, move West, then North, then East and eventually become sub-tropical, often dumping on England and Ireland.

Interesting the round climate do, I lived some years in Italy and haven't noticed any strange phenomena except subtropical climate in Sicily island

But I think one storm did try to barrel up the Mediterranean last Summer.

Yep you're right but nothing to do respect those we see  (in news) frequently happens in US

Harry Kar wrote:That one looks weird ; Scandinavia has the best State of Justice system world wide AFAIK so far and  they go to N.America and we Mediterraneans go there(Scandinavia)  makes no sense to me

Well, a map a few years back showed that the #1 state that Floridians emigrated to was Alaska. There's a change for you. But a lot of the immigrants came here in the 1800s and earlier and they often picked a place with similar climate and farming conditions to what they knew back home. Cincinnati was popular with Germans because it reminded them of the Rhine valley. Locally we have a lot of Arabs, but they're not Muslim, they're descendants of Christian (Orthodox) emigrants from Ramallah. Ramallah back then was minority-muslim but prosperous, so a lot of people established business interests elsewhere and eventually moved. Only recently have we had an influx of Muslims, but a lot of them are not Arab, they're Pakistani, Bangla, or SE Asian.

Ramalah i guess is in Syria?!
Very interesting peoples migrations world wide

Obviously many people like New York. It has culture, lots of business. And pizza.

Harry Kar wrote:Italians are spread everywhere

That's because they bring the best food!

I can confirm that (my ex wife is Italian) but they're the most renown WW but  there are also other Mediterranean eating cultures (maybe less renown but the same valuable) like Greek, Spanish and french too. The Keyword in that field (as a very first abstraction) is: Mediterranean culture --for foods-- regardless of states    

Harry Kar wrote:we leaved out Alaskan's and Canadians but that's for the next trip

Canada is a great country.

Dunno why but i have that opinion too; I guess Canada(by the way Australia too) belongs to set of those  who has "of the best State of Justice system" like Scandinavia

Too cold for tropical me, though.

Miami vice ; between too worm and too cold i prefer the later only because i can't  undress my skin
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Actually it was the horrible tax situation that first made me think of Greece. The many islands just confirmed it. Greece has been a shining example of why other countries shouldn't tell you how to fix your economy, no matter how badly you might have screwed it up yourself.

I've been following the Macedonia affair for a long time. Truthfully, from what I can see on the map, "North Macedonia" looks like at least part of it was part of the historical Macedon, although Philip and that upstart kid of his liked Greece a lot better on the whole. Having 2 "Macedonias" was a bit confusing (kind of like the 2 Iberias), but I think maybe people can get comfortable with the compromise naming. Be nice to your neighbors to the North. They've had a rough time.

Ramallah is in Palestine. I suppose these days it may be more or less a suburb of Jerusalem.

Greek cooking has been popular in the US in recent years. Unfortunately, spinach gives me stomach cramps, I don't care for feta or eggplant and yogurt is spoiled milk to me (my wife thinks otherwise, however). But I'll help clean out the dolmas, and baklava is an evil that I haven't enjoyed in far too long. Baklava is easy to find around here, since a lot of the fast-food places around here are run by ex-Ramallans. Since they're not Muslim, they also feature non-halal sandwiches in pita bread.
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What's that(...brand new Celebrity Edge)?

It's a Cruise Ship from Celebrity Cruise Lines, that just got released...

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Tim Cooke wrote:Sinead O'Connor doesn't usually have hair. Are you sure you're not thinking of The Cranberries? Probably the song Zombie?

I meant exactly that one: zombie  peformed by  Dolores O'Riordan RIP and not Sinead  ; I love it (Dolores too)
Thanks Tim
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