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Diana Dying Pictures

 
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'There was only one bit of evidence left against him. The picture itself... Once it had given him pleasure to watch it changing and growing old. Of late... It had brought melancholy... It had been like conscience to him... He would destroy it. He looked round, and saw the knife... it would kill the painter's work... It would kill the past and when that was dead he would be free... He... stabbed the picture... There was a cry heard... so horrible in its agony that the frightened servants woke... Two gentlemen... passing in the Square below, stopped ... "Whose house is that, constable?" asked the elder... "Mr Dorian Gray's, sir," answered the policeman. They looked at each other, as they walked away, and sneered.' Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray


The Pictures of Diana Fray - Too

Time will tell whose view of Diana was real; whatever we may wish, only time will tell whether it is the princess or the picture that has been stabbed through the heart; and it will tell us in this way: There exist in our world at this minute revolting photographs of Diana dying in the crashed car, photographs taken by the very paparrazi we all hate this week. The reaction to her death proves that the world loved everything Diana stood for - but what was that? If we see those photographs, if we buy the papers that will print them, then we will know at last why we grieve now; we will know for sure what she stood for; what we want to see; who we are; what our pictures look like.


Has anyone seen the pictures ? What does it tell you about yourself?
[ April 22, 2004: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
 
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I'll wait until they bring out the limited edition "Dying Di" commemorative plates.
 
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I was going to write a huge long rant on the deprived sick b******s who have shown the new depths that the media have sunk to.... but its just too nice a day outside, and I'm not really in the mood. That probably sums up most of the problem - these things happen which are clearly unacceptable, but as long as things are fairly ok personally for us, we don't really want to do anything about it.
Anyway, I broadly agree that while we can say that CBS are a total disgrace, the people that watched the programme knowing what it would show, and the people who rush out to buy the papers to see the pictures are no better.
For some strange reason, people seem to have a fascination with bad news - if we watch the evening news, we're far more interested in the blood-and-guts part of it than the happy-ending parts of the news. Maybe we like to hear bad stuff happening a long way off, to other people because it makes us feel better/safer. I don't know really - maybe we're just screwed up.
 
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..and I guess looking at pictures of Saddam's dead sons is NOT sick somehow? And that the media are doing society a service?
yea it is a lovely day outside :roll:
 
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What about a screen saver? It could be animated so she blinked at random moments.
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I don't know really - maybe we're just screwed up.
I think that's probably the underlying truth: we're getting what we condone.
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For some reason, I found the following excerpt from that link unreasonably amusing:

After Diana, Prince Charles was the next prettiest woman in the Royal Family.

 
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It's odd. comics would milk an event for all they can get (remember the Diana on the radio joke) and the media (in this case CBS) are trying.
Wouldn't put it past politicians to make something of it soon. OR Charles Spencer.
The general consensus so far over here seems to try protecting Diana's sons from the images. Dianas death was traumatic for the nation, and feeling so took the nation by surprise.
 
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I saw on the news this morning that the American govt are trying to stop the media showing pictures of coffins returning from Iraq. Its kind of odd that its perfectly acceptable to show a dying person, but not ok to show an anonymous coffin.
 
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I don't understand why there is such a big deal about showing a couple of pictures. We see lots worse on "World's Worst Car Crashes".
 
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Think! The People's Princess dying !
Some drunken cod breaking the speed limit and crashing.
I'm not refering to the French driver. Fat lot of attention he got!
 
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I was never too much interested in the Royal Family to begin with. I saw Diana's death as tragic, but I wouldn't care to see photographs of her body any more than I would care to see Kurt Cobain's post mortem.
But people are fascinated with death and what it looks like. I'm not sure what the writer in that link is really going off about, since I am not aware of the source, but calling Diana the World's Princess, even from grief and outrage, a bit of a stretch.
 
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Think! The People's Princess dying !

If she had been wearing her seat belt she might be alive. But I guess princesses don't have to live by the same rules as the rest of us. Personally, I don't get the whole "people's princess" thing. Yeah, she looked good compared to the rest of the in-bred royal family but that isn't exactly saying much.
 
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Well said.
This just exposes the hypocrisy of a lot of people.
Its okay to show Saddam's smashed kids, but NOT okay to show American soldiers being strung up in a war.
Both are sick things to see, I don't see how a moral distinction can be made.

Originally posted by SJ Ponsardin:
..and I guess looking at pictures of Saddam's dead sons is NOT sick somehow? And that the media are doing society a service?
yea it is a lovely day outside :roll:

 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Yeah, she looked good compared to the rest of the in-bred royal family but that isn't exactly saying much.


This is something I've often wondered about. I know this is going to sound sexist, but it's not intended that way. If QEII had had daughters who were shopping for consorts, I'd have the same things to say as I'm about to say about here little princelings.
Diana was a fairly plain woman, and as near as I can figure she wasn't exactly the life of the party, either. And then there's the "lovely" Camilla Parker-Bowles. And the only slightly lovlier Sarah Ferguson. In all seriousness, these guys are princes. Charles is in line for King of England. Being Queen has to be at least as much fun as spending a year dedicating shopping malls as Miss Universe. Why was this the best Andy and Chuck could do?
I know neither of these prince guys are much of a prize themselves, but come on: there are apparently beautiful women lining up around the block for the privilege of being humiliated on television in a dozen different variations on "marry some loser the audience picks for you/sing cheesy torch songs off key/eat spiders" and whatever else those classy folks at the TV networks can dream up. It seems incomprehensible to me that the future king of England can't even find a Kelly Clarkson to call his own.
 
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Diana :
At the age of 19, she was hand picked by the palace to marry Prince Charles, to produce the future king of England. Why? Because number one, she was a virgin and only a virgin can marry a prince. How many women are virgins at 19 in this day and age?
Camilla Parker Bowles :
Prince Charles continued, on his on admission, to see Camilla Parker-Bowles throughout their marriage. Could this be the reason he chose to marry Diana ? After Diana's death Charles handled himself really well and won back some peoples good opinion of him.
Of course Diana wanted the press to help promote her charities, but wanted privacy for her sons and herself in their private lives. She fought very hard to keep custody of the two princes and at the time of her death, they were with their father.
Yes this woman is really PLAIN This is my favourite. I think it may be on eat the Taj Mahal when she is pensive, thinking about ditching Charles.
More pictures of a really plain woman
Sarah Fergusson made it in the US. Not many would have known what to make of her. Must say she has done well for herself on her own. Not princess material, though.
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Think! The People's Princess dying !


Nope, not my princess. I don't recognize nor acknowledge royalty.
 
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Originally posted by Sanjay Joshi:

Its okay to show Saddam's smashed kids, but NOT okay to show American soldiers being strung up in a war.
Both are sick things to see, I don't see how a moral distinction can be made.


I didn't hear the 'moral' argument in this topic at all before now.
In any event, war is different. Showing the enemy destroyed or humiliated is part and parcel of life-and-death conflict. The ethics are situational, as warring factions have something very real and permanent at stake. That said, it's not too hard to understand why ME nationals in New Jersey are on film cheering while the Towers were falling; it's just a profoundly bad idea. Showing the enemy smashed or strung up appeals to the worst in human nature, but it is human nonetheless.
 
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An interesting link on Sainthood,paparazzi,victims and victimisers
Princess Diana passed on Sunday, August 31st and then on Friday, September 5th, Mother Teresa laid her body down for the last time.
As Billy Joel once sang "Only the good die young." Interesting. We will never think of mother Teresa as anything other than old and wrinkled. Maybe Princess Diana's synchronistic passing gave Mother Teresa's death an bit of youthful vigor and beauty. As I said earlier, the media "blur" of the two gave both the qualities of the other. Diana gets sainthood; Mother Teresa gets the energy of youth and beauty. "All things work together for good."
 
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
An interesting link on Sainthood,paparazzi,victims and victimisers
Princess Diana passed on Sunday, August 31st and then on Friday, September 5th, Mother Teresa laid her body down for the last time.
As Billy Joel once sang "Only the good die young." Interesting. We will never think of mother Teresa as anything other than old and wrinkled. Maybe Princess Diana's synchronistic passing gave Mother Teresa's death an bit of youthful vigor and beauty. As I said earlier, the media "blur" of the two gave both the qualities of the other. Diana gets sainthood; Mother Teresa gets the energy of youth and beauty. "All things work together for good."


I have one observation about the closeness of Diana & Mother Teresa's deaths.
"Diana has not achieved even 25% of what Mother Teresa achieved in her lifetime. I agree that both are great human beings. If Diana had lived 10 more years she would have probably done some more great things(in addition to her philonthorphy in her short life span). But, as of their lifespans; Diana and Mother Teresa can not be talked about in the same scale".
The above is just a personal opinion.
 
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
At the age of 19, she was hand picked by the palace to marry Prince Charles, to produce the future king of England. Why? Because number one, she was a virgin and only a virgin can marry a prince. - Actually I know for a fact she copped off with my mate Gareth (zitty) Southgate at the old quarry shed while pissed up on Thunderbird. She was chosen for Charles because she had been well initiated in the ways of love

Yes this woman is really PLAIN This is my favourite. I think it may be on eat the Taj Mahal when she is pensive, thinking about ditching Charles. - Link's bust. Would that be the Taj Mahal in Bethnal Green? They do a great balti there, a bit on the spicy side. Maybe its just indigestion that makes her look like that?
 
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Richard you are incorrigible!
I guess someone's trying though.
 
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