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Java 2 Version Naming

 
Brandon Tom
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I'm just interested. Does anyone know why Sun Microsystem has this bizarre system for naming Java (i.e. Java 2 1.2, 1.4, 5.0)? Has there ever been an explanation for this?
 
Layne Lund
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To make matters more confusing the newest version has two numbers: 1.5 and 5.0! Who knows what marketing monkey came up with this idea?

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Dani Atrei
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Maybe managers associate higher numbers with better things. If it's version 5 it's got to be better than 1.4...
 
Brandon Tom
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But is 1.5 better than 5.0?
 
Dani Atrei
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Well 1.5 is 5 so no, i'm just saying managers think 5, since the number is bigger must have a better appeal than 1.5, it sounds like there have been x versions down going from 1.0 to 1.1 etc...
 
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Here is Sun's own explanation:
Version 1.5.0 or 5.0?

Both version numbers "1.5.0" and "5.0" are used to identify this release of the Java 2 Platform Standard Edition. Version "5.0" is the product version, while "1.5.0" is the developer version. The number "5.0" is used to better reflect the level of maturity, stability, scalability and security of the J2SE.

I agree that it's crazy, but you know, marketing people think differently than technical geniuses like us...

The "2" in Java 2, J2SE, J2EE etc. was added at version 1.2. In the next version, they will be dropping the 2 again.

So it will be JSE 6.0 (or 1.6), and JEE 5.0 (or 1.5).
[ January 25, 2006: Message edited by: Jesper de Jong ]
 
Jeff Albertson
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Following that link, I like the page that lists all the release code names: http://java.sun.com/j2se/codenames.html -- I didn't realize that the minor releases (Hopper, Mantis) were named after insects, because they are bug-fix releases! And Pumpkin -- who knew? And who coins these names, anyway?
 
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And you'll notice that Wikipedia's article about computer bugs specifically mentions Admiral Grace Hopper.
 
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Originally posted by Jesper de Jong:
... The number "5.0" is used to better reflect the level of maturity, stability, scalability and security of the J2SE.

I think this speaks to Layne's observation of a "marketing monkey" being involved. Results like this are seldom achieved by a single monkey, so I suspect a committee effort. With any luck, 1.6 will be dubbed Java 2(b) Ultra 6000 (J2BU6). :roll:
 
Ken Blair
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Originally posted by marc weber:

I think this speaks to Layne's observation of a "marketing monkey" being involved. Results like this are seldom achieved by a single monkey, so I suspect a committee effort. With any luck, 1.6 will be dubbed Java 2(b) Ultra 6000 (J2BU6). :roll:


Then it will be Java7 1.0 Super Cougar (J7SC 1.0)
 
marc weber
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Originally posted by Ken Blair:
... Then it will be Java7 1.0 Super Cougar (J7SC 1.0)

Now that sounds worth waiting for! Hey K&B, when will the books be available for this version?

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Ken Blair
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There's a J7SCSCJD 1.0 guide out already!
 
Brandon Tom
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Now that's going to make a great title for some lucky book.
 
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