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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
.. they should see and know each part they are donating. Thats my view.
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Originally posted by Joe King:
I wouldn't kill them - its not much of a punishment is it? Its not like they can suffer it they're dead. Instead, chuck them in a prison... maybe run by some specially selected "defence contracters".
On the subject of coalition run prisons, how long before one has cameras installed and becomes the subject of the latest reality-tv show? :roll:
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
The punishment involves slow strangulation until the criminal ALMOST passes out, then cutting out his/her intestines (without anesthesia of course) and throwing those onto a fire...
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
The punishment involves slow strangulation until the criminal ALMOST passes out, then cutting out his/her intestines (without anesthesia of course) and throwing those onto a fire.
How nice. Should we shout "God bless America!" while we are administering the punishment?
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Originally posted by Jeffrey Hunter:
Berg's execution
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Originally posted by Alan Labout:
If there were real justice in the world it would be possible to hook these two elements up: the Iraqi terrorists who behead American contractors....and the American soldiers who stack naked Iraqi prisoners on top of each other and make them masturbate themselves. Politics aside, I'm sure these two folks would have quite a bit in common to talk about.
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
Hello there!!!
On a basic sense, there is no killing that took place in the Iraqi prison; I think it has more todo with some lessIQ military personnel.
Where as the beheading is a death to a human being, how can you compare and make similarities between these two different set of people??
I am basically disgusted with the above post...........
Originally posted by Don Stadler:
Give them a trial or a tribunal, or whatever. When guilt is established...
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
The punishment involves slow strangulation until the criminal ALMOST passes out, then cutting out his/her intestines (without anesthesia of course) and throwing those onto a fire.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Jeroen is from the Netherlands.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
I don't advocate such things per se, but as you know terrorists understand only violence and consider non-violent responses to their actions to be a sign of weakness.
Therefore the most graphic show of our displeasure with their actions may well be the only effective deterrent to those actions.
Originally posted by Joseph George:
While we're at it, why bother with the trial to begin with?
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
While the acts perpetrated against those prisoners were certainly humiliating for them, and I suspect designed with their culture in mind, they were not torture.
Torture is the infliction of severe physical or psychological pain as a means of cruelty, intimidation, punishment or for the extraction of a confession or information.
torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity
Originally posted by Joe King:
Also depriving prisoners of food and light seems like torture
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
Hello there!!!
On a basic sense, there is no killing that took place in the Iraqi prison; I think it has more todo with some lessIQ military personnel.
Where as the beheading is a death to a human being, how can you compare and make similarities between these two different set of people??
I am basically disgusted with the above post...........
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Incase you have not realized it yet, these are prisoners and the objective of holding them captive is to punish them for their behaviour and to interrogate them for information on other offenders
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Incase you have not realized it yet, these are prisoners and the objective of holding them captive is to punish them for their behaviour and to interrogate them for information on other offenders
I can imagine a prison run by liberals-- Feed the prisioners food from 5 star hotel and provide them room service in their cells. This way the liberals will believe in "winning the hearts and minds" of the prisoners. Then provide the prisoners 5 hours outdoor time everyday where they can go and do whatever they like, this will again show that liberals believe in "winning hearts and minds". And finally, expense all of the prisoners wants to the common tax paying citizen. :roll:
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Incase you have not realized it yet, these are prisoners and the objective of holding them captive is to punish them for their behaviour and to interrogate them for information on other offenders.
Let's not go overboard and apply the definition where it doesn't fit.
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Infact, if I were a military interrogator I would allow beating for the extraction of information.
Physical force has its merits and demerits. Excessive physical force may not be required, but some amount of it does have its merits. It may seem inhumane to the casual observer, but if valuable information can be obtained which in turn could result in the saving of soliders lives, I'd be all for it.
Also let us not kid ourselves that the Iraqi militias are humane in treating their POWs.
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