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The current issue of "First Things" has an article about Hindu terrorism in India. Unfortunately, it won't be on their web site for at least one month, maybe two. I'll post some short excerpts over the next couple of days.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
The current issue of "First Things" has an article about Hindu terrorism in India. Unfortunately, it won't be on their web site for at least one month, maybe two. I'll post some short excerpts over the next couple of days.


The title of the original article (from the link that you provided) seems to be �Hinduism and Terror, Paul Marshall�. Other frequently seen headings are, �America and Terror�, �War and Love�, �Good or Bad�!

And Oh, other headings from the page are

What It's Like To Be a Christian, Peter Simpson
Jesus in America by Richard Wightman Fox, J. A. Gray

Hmmmm, I see!
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
The current issue of "First Things" has an article about Hindu terrorism in India. Unfortunately, it won't be on their web site for at least one month, maybe two. I'll post some short excerpts over the next couple of days.



There was extreme Hinduism (even I wont call in fanatic Hinduism) in early 1990s, which slowly died its own death.

From the articles, "First Thing" seems to be religious magazine.

I dont think it is needed to tell, what objectives such religious magazine have, apart from making people religious ...

I wish I could read the article...
 
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I am surprised what was the need to post info about the article which is not even published.
[ May 25, 2004: Message edited by: Sameer Jamal ]
 
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:

The title of the original article (from the link that you provided) seems to be �Hinduism and Terror, Paul Marshall�. Other frequently seen headings are, �America and Terror�, �War and Love�, �Good or Bad�!

And Oh, other headings from the page are

What It's Like To Be a Christian, Peter Simpson
Jesus in America by Richard Wightman Fox, J. A. Gray

Hmmmm, I see!



Hmmmmm!!!
Interesting to see how titles are twisted.

- Manish
 
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Hindu extremists in India like RSS,VHP etc are more of reactionaries than affection to real Hinduism.All of their agendas always contain some twist which will provoke people in other religion .This is what RSS is interested in.Take a recent exmple of foreign origin,Its not that RSS is really interested in this issue,it is basically targetted towards Sonia Gandhi.Or take example of Ayodhya,the Babri Masjid where nobody bothered to go for years,RSS saw that it can become an issue and can provoke Muslims.Their agendas in diffrent states also contain some twist thereby getting some reaction from people in other religions.Previous Congress(I) governments too are responsible for this mess.Instead of educating,Congress(I) looked them as a vote banks.BJP saw that it can get middle,higher middle class,larger votebank by creating these issues.
 
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Visit the website www.rss.org.Some of the headlines are :
1)Jamaat-e-Islami chief's entry into Europe banned
2)Vatican warns women about Muslim mates

[ May 25, 2004: Message edited by: Ram Abdullah D'Souza ]
 
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"Jesus in America" is a review of a new book discussing the many ways Jesus has been thought of by groups in American history. It was written by a college professor and is meant as an undergraduate college textbook.

You are correct that "First Things" is a religious magazine. It is Roman Catholic in its sensibilities.

Sameer, I posted because I thought that many of my Indian friends might be interested in reading the article. The magazine is available on newsstands (at least bigger ones) and in libraries.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
You are correct that "First Things" is a religious magazine. It is Roman Catholic in its sensibilities.

The magazine is available on newsstands (at least bigger ones) and in libraries.



I generally read/visit relegious magazines/sites(though very rarely) to know how others are viewing about your religion.

The more I read religious articles, my disbelief in religion becomes more stronger.

I wish I could get article here in India.
 
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Sameer, I posted because I thought that many of my Indian friends might be interested in reading the article. The magazine is available on newsstands (at least bigger ones) and in libraries



How about a book promotion?
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:

You are correct that "First Things" is a religious magazine. It is Roman Catholic in its sensibilities.



[disclaimer]
I have not read this article; so what I say here is based purely on the vitriol that I've heard on some christian tv networks.
[/disclaimer]

The Roman Catholic church (all the way down from the Vatican) views hindus as pagans, heathens, people who have darkness in their souls (probably even as spawns of the devil) and who need to be saved. Considering such a view, any article in such a religious magazine is going to be very extreme against hindus in general & hinduism in particular.
 
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:


The Roman Catholic church (all the way down from the Vatican) views hindus as pagans, heathens, people who have darkness in their souls (probably even as spawns of the devil) and who need to be saved.



The Roman Catholic church absolutely does not think that Hindus (or any other race or creed of people) are "spawns of the devil." The Church does believe that in order for people to enter into Heaven, they have to accept Jesus and his teachings. But in one form or another, by definition, this is what virtually every religion believes: that it is the One True Way. A religion that included an elaborate system of beliefs, but which included the theorem that all other religions were equally valid, wouldn't make much sense, would it?

The folks you see preaching on TV who seemed to consider you the "spawn of the devil" were Evangelical Christians -- or, more likely, hucksters out to bilk the innocent by calling themselves such. There's a rather large difference between them and Roman Catholics -- almost, but not quite, as large as the gap between Roman Catholics and Muslims.
[ May 25, 2004: Message edited by: Ernest Friedman-Hill ]
 
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
The Roman Catholic church (all the way down from the Vatican) views hindus as pagans, heathens, people who have darkness in their souls (probably even as spawns of the devil) and who need to be saved.

That is the belief of the Southern Baptists, not the Catholic Church. Of course, many Hindus are angry at the Pope for promoting the conversion of the lower castes within Hinduism. As far as being saved, it is the belief of the Church that everyone needs to be saved, including Catholics.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
That is the belief of the Southern Baptists, not the Catholic Church. Of course, many Hindus are angry at the Pope for promoting the conversion of the lower castes within Hinduism. As far as being saved, it is the belief of the Church that everyone needs to be saved, including Catholics.



This is also NOT the belief of Sourthern Baptists. We don't believe anyone to be "spawns of the devil" or heathens, etc. We do believe Jesus is the only way just as other religions believe their way is the only way.

Tom, please don't generalize the beliefs of an entire denomination based on whoever you have been talking to.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Of course, many Hindus are angry at the Pope for promoting the conversion of the lower castes within Hinduism.



Starting this controversial thread, and above all bringing up this highly debated, sensitive point cannot be with good intentions, but who am I to question a mod! :roll: Thanks to Ernest for that unbiased post though!

Oh, and the point of this post is to bring slight correction to TP�s attention: May be some Hindus are angry at the Pope for promoting conversions, but many more Hindus are angry at the inappropriate methods used to convert, than the conversion itself. I won�t be trying to explain it all over again, its all here in MD archives, wasting ranch-real-estate!
 
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
May be some Hindus are angry at the Pope for promoting conversions, but many more Hindus are angry at the inappropriate methods used to convert, than the conversion itself.



Oh no .. not again ..
 
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Originally posted by R K Singh:
Oh no .. not again ..



Oy! Biased editing there! You are making me look bad by quoting only that line - next line of my post says exactly what you said!!
[ May 25, 2004: Message edited by: Ashok Mash ]
 
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
next line of my post says exactly what you said!!



What you said in text in your next line, I said that in pictorial representation, thats all
 
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Originally posted by R K Singh:
What you said in text in your next line, I said that in pictorial representation, thats all



Oh, my bad! I thought you are one of them, you know, those ""Hindu terrorists""!
 
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
""Hindu terrorists""!



Dont confuse .. its "Hindu and Terror" OR "Hindu Terrorism" OR "Hindu Terrorists"

I am already confused ..
 
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
Tom, please don't generalize the beliefs of an entire denomination based on whoever you have been talking to.



http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/oct/22us.htm
 
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http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/oct/22us.htm



It was enlightening article .. please do post more such articles.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:


http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/oct/22us.htm



I see your point. While I didn't see anything in the article about spawns of the devil I haven't read the book, so who knows, maybe that's in there, but I doubt it.

I will however digress from this argument because it has nothing to do with the current topic. Mind you, not because I think you are right. Also because whatever I say about my beliefs will surely offend enough people to start something we don't want started.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul
http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/oct/22us.htm



Interesting. If nothing else, the postings here in MD must have made many a ranchers avid readers of rediff.com and timesofindia.com.

And about the evangelism expressed in the article, all I can say is that, it stinks
 
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