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I don't know why, but I get almost violently angry when people respond to

'please', 'thank you', or 'I'm sorry'

with 'uh,huh'.
It just seems so rude. Does anyone else have this reaction?

M
 
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Uh huh.

Really, I agree. It's very dismissive. I'd only use uh-huh in those cases if I really didn't feel that the "Sorry" or the "Thank You" was genuine.
[ June 02, 2004: Message edited by: Elaine Micheals ]
 
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Max, I guess it begs the question: Are we entitled to a 'Your're Welcome' or a 'You're Forgiven'? I don't think so...

The 'Uh-huh' you mention is vague. Is it coming from a shy person, an indifferent person, a person who hates you, a person pre-occupied with other things, etc.
 
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Oh yeah, don't get violent man. You should take up a martial art and channel that energy into something positive.
 
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
You should take up a martial art and channel that energy into something positive.



I'll consider that.

M
 
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Elaine, on the verge of 300. That's hot.

I admit I do this sometimes. If I had to extract a rule set for it, I would guess I do it in response to:

a) One too many f*g insincere or robotic pleases in a long laundry list of items.

b) When people think 'please' will transmute some very unreasonable demand into the magically ok request. Let's take this last weekend for example, when a customer wanted me to create about 24 screen captures over a beautiful 3-day weekend for a course guide without providing a test system. "Can you do this, please?" hardly covers "Please take time away from your kids and please don't rest or relax so I can keep to a schedule I should never have committed to in the first place," but that's what you're going to get. "Uh huh" seems about the right response to me.

c) "Uh huh" is precisely right for form-letter apologies. The time it takes you to automatically say "sorry" is sometimes exactly the amount of time I want to spend saying it's ok.

Dismissiveness is only the symptom. It's a good step to ask if it originates with the speaker or if in fact it might be inspired behavior.

All bets are off for the teens, 'tweens, and younger 20's crowd, many for whom testing social conventions is a matter of growing up, flailing at hipness, or like, whatever.

In Max's particular case it's a little different too. Midwestern manners bend more towards the British inclination to put good manners above most other things. On the coasts, we be edgy.
[ June 02, 2004: Message edited by: Michael Ernest ]
 
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I guess what I really dislike is that it seems passive aggressive, which I realty, really hate. If you're unhappy, then just say so, and let's have it out. Geez!

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Originally posted by Max Habibi:

I'll consider that.

M



Uh, huh. This is the most sarcastic post I've ever seen....
 
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Originally posted by John Dunn: (to Max Habibi)
Oh yeah, don't get violent man. You should take up a martial art and channel that energy into something positive.



John, Max is already a martial artist. I believe he has black belts (don't know the degree/dan) in Taekwondo & Jeet Kun Do. He is an instructor of the latter.
 
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Haveing trouble witf thes seymbowl "+"

Thakn you

(sory about english)
 
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Sometimes sarcasm is wasted...

I read his story about the boys and teaching them and all that good stuff.



So Max, don't get violent on us dude.
 
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
Sometimes sarcasm is wasted...



Uh huh...
 
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JD: Sometimes sarcasm is wasted...

I wondered if your advice was ironical too! Wish I didn't delete that part of my post... 'Cos now it looks uh huh... Never mind.

Very subtle insult.
 
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Hah, this is funny, I was just having this same conversation yesterday with some friends.

I am not originally from the US (from NZ actually), and have been living in California for a few years now. And this "uh huh" or "umm hmm" response to when you say "thank you" to someone pisses me off too.

I mean WTF!, where did it come from, I guess it doesn't come across to some people as rude, condescending, indifferent, but to me it is a complete shite reply.

Rant over
 
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Originally posted by Max Habibi:

Sometimes sarcasm is wasted...

Uh huh...



Recursion...
 
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Karma?
 
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MI: I wondered if your advice was ironical too!

Ironical, but NOT advice. (I'm too humble.)

Truth be told, my impression of Max is that he is fairly spiritual, self aware due to his black belt and teacher status. I may be taking liberties here, but the only person that comes to mind is an older black belt/teacher guy I knew of, who was quite a pleasure to be around in the gym.

Now a few weeks ago, Max claimed to want to take the head off all wife-beaters, and I bet he wouldn't want to, citing my example of the NY Knicks playoff game that lambasted Jason Kidd. I found it repulsive and I was ashamed of NYC. Guy next to me said the same. I just don't think Max would have been cheering.

So Max, why all the violence? Will the REAL Max please stand up?
 
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
MI: I wondered if your advice was ironical too!

So Max, why all the violence?



Um, what violence?

M
 
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Originally posted by Max Habibi:


Um, what violence?

M


Originally posted by Max Habibi:

I don't know why, but I get almost violently angry when people respond to


I guess this shows you're a candidate for anger management??
 
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Either that, or all those Catholic girls I chased after have deeply affected my psyche, and now I'm guilty of sins of thought

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The best thing about being raised with Catholic values is it gives you something to work out for the rest of your life.
 
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I know what you mean. I'm also a recovering Catholic. I'm primarily a Christian. Brief and to the point, and with the latest priest scandal, the Church has got NOTHING on me!!!
 
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One of my favorite quotes:

"Guilt is a wasted emotion."


 
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Oh I can't agree. Some of us are taught to squeeze every last drop out of it.
 
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Oh I can't agree. Some of us are taught to squeeze every last drop out of it.



... are you my mother???
 
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Three hunnert posts! Elaine, you're a doll. Made my day. :-*

Now, come closer and ask me that question, sass.
 
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
The best thing about being raised with Catholic values is it gives you something to work out for the rest of your life.



Yeah, but I was trying to give them something to work out for a while. I didn't realize they were going to contaminate me!

M
 
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MH: Either that, or all those Catholic girls I chased after have deeply affected my psyche, and now I'm guilty of sins of thought

scape�goat ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skpgt)
n.
1.One that is made to bear the blame of others.
2.Bible. A live goat over whose head Aaron confessed all the sins of the children of Israel on the Day of Atonement. The goat, symbolically bearing their sins, was then sent into the wilderness.
 
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Main Entry: nos�tal�gia
Pronunciation: n�-'stal-j&, n&- also no-, nO-; n&-'st�l-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek nostos return home + New Latin -algia; akin to Greek neisthai to return, Old English genesan to survive, Sanskrit nasate he approaches
1 : a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period or irrecoverable condition; also : something that evokes nostalgia
[ June 03, 2004: Message edited by: Max Habibi ]
 
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has-been (hzbn)
n. Informal pl. has-beens
1.One that is no longer famous, popular, successful, or useful.

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Jenny kiss'd me when we met,
Jumping from the chair she sat in;
Time, you thief, who love to get
Sweets into your list, put that in!

Say I'm weary, say I'm sad,
Say that health and wealth have miss'd me,
Say I'm growing old, but add,
Jenny kiss'd me.

[ June 03, 2004: Message edited by: Max Habibi ]
 
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(Fist of Rage, by Kid Rock)
...
I'm a fist of rage
One foot in the grave
I'm a fist of rage
Far from saved
I'm a fist of rage
In a broken state
I�m a razor blade slittin� through a wrist of hate
I'm a fist of rage
I'm a fist of rage
I'm a fist of rage

Now crack another bottle and let me knock one back

Slim Jims and a Tin Man grins
Deadheads with dreads
And now the Feds growin' shark fins
My girl's knocked up
We're in love but she's young
And yo I think I'm gonna get locked up...

[ June 03, 2004: Message edited by: John Dunn ]
 
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BTW, Kid Rock is at Jones Beach on Jun 11. for anyone in the NYC area. I just gots mines. His latest album is country, quite different...

I saw him last year and in one of his songs, he started by singing, played both guitars, bash, drums, organ, dj-ed and went back to singing, without missing ONE BEAT. He had to grab the instruments in the middle of the song - (carefully). He's pretty talented, albeit a bit on the crude side. (my wife can't get by that.)
 
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Jenny kiss'd me when we met,
Jumping from the chair she sat in;
Time, you thief, who love to get
Sweets into your list, put that in!


I was eighty, sittin' in my wheelchair
Uncountable sets, 'em made me comatose
Then Jenny smooch'd me, and my facial hair
Felt taste of time, and oh, so sweet 'twas

So I indulged in hedonistic glares
Orgasmed by fabric of the sweaty space
The fading memories of chairs
Is what I am, my final stance

I burnt the chair where you once sat
To choke the flow of entropy and time
But pair of thieves just laughed at that
Invulnerable, determined, and sublime

I threw the ashes to the wind
And gone were doubts and the pain:
The ashes will become a char again
Where Jenny would then sit

(Dedicated to Jenny)
[ June 03, 2004: Message edited by: Eugene Kononov ]
 
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
My girl's knocked up
We're in love but she's young
And yo I think I'm gonna get locked up...



Sounds like a little ditty about Jack and Diane...

M
 
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:

Jenny kiss'd me when we met,
Jumping from the chair she sat in;
Time, you thief, who love to get
Sweets into your list, put that in!


I was eighty, sittin' in my wheelchair
Uncountable sets, 'em made me comatose
Then Jenny smooch'd me, and my facial hair
Felt taste of time, and oh, so sweet 'twas

So I indulged in hedonistic glares
Orgasmed by fabric of the sweaty space
The fading memories of chairs
Is what I am, my final stance

I burnt the chair where you once sat
To choke the flow of entropy and time
But pair of thieves just laughed at that
Invulnerable, determined, and sublime

I threw the ashes to the wind
And gone were doubts and the pain:
The ashes will become a char again
Where Jenny would then sit

(Dedicated to Jenny)

[ June 03, 2004: Message edited by: Eugene Kononov ]



Nice! one of yours?

M
 
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Poetry is very forgiving. You can tell what's on your mind without questioning yourself. Maybe it's because you are forced to think in terms of rhythm and rhymes, rather than in terms of cohesiveness, grammar, or correct representation of facts. With that piece of poetry above, I exceeded my own expectations.
 
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You were good, Eugene. I copied the poem.
 
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ditto
 
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