Yuck

[Helen Thomas]

Woman gives birth to frog-like creature

What's even more disgusting is that it has human-like characteristics in the shape of the tongue and fingers. Experts claim it looks faintly human.

Another story I picked up from the tabloids - Spider man is going global. The comic book hero is about to be reinvented for the mass Indian market,a case of reverse globalisation.
Peter Parker from Queen's NY will become Pavitr Prabhakar a boy from suburban Bombay who swings over the rickshaw packed streets of the city clad in an amalgam of traditional spider suit and an Indian dhoti. Instead of the Green Goblin he will do battle with the demons of Hindu mythology. TO be published in five local languages.

Pavitr sounds like a Russian name.
[ July 02, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]

[Gian Franco]

Hi,

Another story I picked up from the tabloids - Spider
man is going global. The comic book hero is about to
be reinvented for the mass Indian market,a case of
reverse globalisation.

if this is a case of reverse globalisation

Woman gives birth to frog-like creature
What's even more disgusting is that it has human-like
characteristics in the shape of the tongue and fingers.
Experts claim it looks faintly human.

maybe this is a side-effect of direct globalisation...
Schreck 2 is out, isn't it, in a cinema next to you!

Bye,

Gian Franco
[ July 02, 2004: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]

[Helen Thomas]

maybe this is a side-effect of direct globalisation...
Schreck 2 is out, isn't it, in a cinema next to you!
Bye,
Gian Franco

I like Shrek, believe Shrek 2 is even better....
Shrek is an ogre. I grew up with stories of ogres, mostly nice. But I stil won't care to meet him for real. I'd much rather come face to face with a Siberian tiger. At least there's a several billion years code-of-conduct to follow there.
And I know where I stand in the food chain. And one time I tried frogs legs it was nice - tasted like chicken.
[ July 02, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]

[Gian Franco]

Shrek is an ogre.

I know.

I liked donkey better though,

nice boulder...amazing what you can do
with such a modest budget

I haven't seen the sequel yet.

Have a nice day
[ July 03, 2004: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]

[Helen Thomas]

I like donkey better though,

For a minute there I thought you meant - to eat
Eddie Murphy was good - he made the movie a success (for the grown-ups at least). Have a nice day too.
[ July 03, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]

[Thomas Paul]

The BBC are amateurs. Here's a real story:

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/surveyjune18/cover2.html

And notice that Jimmy Hoffa's return only gets a small headline!

[Gian Franco]

I like donkey better though,

For a minute there I thought you meant - to eat

Here's a old(ish) joke slightly related to the food chain
aspect :

In the land of painters and bull fights, a spanish
business man invites his foreign guest to taste a
local dish: battered bull-testicles.

They both go and sit in a well known restaurant,
have a drink and some starters, and after some
time the main dish comes adorned with vegetables.

The spanish business man thrilled awaits the opinion
of his guest, but, before even tasting, this one says:
"They'r so small ". To which the business man replies:
"Well...sometimes the bull wins "


[ July 03, 2004: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]

[Helen Thomas]

Nice one Gian Franco.

Spider-Man's love interest, Mary Jane, will become Meera Jain, while Aunt May will be renamed Aunt Maya and she'll trade in her floral print dresses for a sari."Nice art work Spider Man India
[ July 03, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]

[Damien Howard]

Originally posted by Gian Franco Casula:


Here's a old(ish) joke slightly related to the food chain
aspect :

In the land of painters and bull fights, a spanish
business man invites his foreign guest to taste a
local dish: battered bull-testicles.

They both go and sit in a well known restaurant,
have a drink and some starters, and after some
time the main dish comes adorned with vegetables.

The spanish business man thrilled awaits the opinion
of his guest, but, before even tasting, this one says:
"They'r so small ". To which the business man replies:
"Well...sometimes the bull wins "



[ July 03, 2004: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]

These are eaten in the rocky mountain region of the US. They are called rocky mountain oysters. I tried them once just to say I did, they were ok I guess, but I don't think I'd eat them again.

[Sadanand Murthy]

Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
[QB Pavitr sounds like a Russian name.

[ July 02, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ][/QB]

It is very Indian. It means pure.

[Ashok Mash]

Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
The comic book hero is about to be reinvented for the mass Indian market,a case of reverse globalisation.

Honestly, I don't see any need for that now! Original Spiderman (printed in local languages) have been just as popular in India as it has been elsewhere � I grew up reading variety of Marvel comics, including Phantom, Madrake and Spiderman!

[Terimaki Tojay]

Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:


It is very Indian. It means pure.

Common misconception. Shuddh means pure. Pavitr means godly/holy. Eg. Ganga-jal (water of Ganga river) is considered Pavitr. It is no more "shuddh" though While home made Ghee is shuddh but not pavitr.

[Sadanand Murthy]

Originally posted by Terimaki Tojay:


Common misconception. Shuddh means pure. Pavitr means godly/holy. Eg. Ganga-jal (water of Ganga river) is considered Pavitr. It is no more "shuddh" though While home made Ghee is shuddh but not pavitr.

You are correct. I considered editing the post afterwards and adding "/sacred". The word pure is not entirely wrong for pavitr; it does/can mean sinless. I often use the word pure as "pure in spirit".

[Jim Yingst]

[Ashok]: Honestly, I don't see any need for that now! Original Spiderman (printed in local languages) have been just as popular in India as it has been elsewhere � I grew up reading variety of Marvel comics, including Phantom, Madrake and Spiderman!

Yeah, I remember when the first X-Men movie came out - I mentioned going to see it to an Indian co-worker, and it turned out he knew as much about the original comics as I did. Quite a fun surprise.

As for an Indian Spider-Man - well it may not be necessary, but I think it sounds like a fun idea. Marvel has about four versions of "Peter Parker" currently anyway - what's one more? Not counting alternate timelines and dead clones. :roll: Pavitr sounds like a fresh take on the idea, and worth a shot. If it doesn't work, well there's no shortage of series that didn't take off; they'll try something else next time. But who knows, it could turn out to be a hit, in India at least. If it's made available in the US, I'd probably pick up a few issues at least, to see what it's like.

[Helen]: Pavitr sounds like a Russian name.

I think you're thinking of Piotr.

[Mapraputa Is]

I think you're thinking of Piotr.

Which, of course, is of Greek origin, not Russian.

Two consonants at the end aren't typical for Russian names

[Helen Thomas]

Petya and Pyotr ( both Peter) from Map's link

PYOTR PARKER (or the Russian equivalent of the latter) for the Russian Spider man.

Pavitr would have been chosen because it sounds like Peter.

[Jim Yingst]

Which, of course, is of Greek origin, not Russian.

And yet somehow, it appears anyway in trasliterations of Russian names. Like say, Tchaikovsky's. I'm betting Helen has heard of him, and does not think of him as Greek.

In the original post I almost added that or course Map will want spell it otherwise, just on general priciple. But that didn't really seem relevant...

[Mapraputa Is]

Dunno about Map, but according to the US Library of Congress' Romanisation tables for Russian the name should be spelled "P�tr".

(Here is where I found this info, the article itself is interesting, it's about Arabic names).
[ July 07, 2004: Message edited by: Mapraputa Is ]

[Amit Agrawal]

Pavitr would have been chosen because it sounds like Peter.

Just to add to that Pavitr[a] is an Indian/Hindu name which means Sacred/ Pure.

[Helen Thomas]

Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[b] I'm betting Helen has heard of him, and does not think of him as Greek.

Sorry. I have heard of Tchaikovsky but cannot say I remember any character Pyotr/Piotr.

[Terimaki Tojay]

In India, I these comic books were published by "Indra Jaal Comics". They had all the series' - Phantom, Mandrake, Flash Gordon, Rip Kirby except Spiderman and Superman. Besides these they also had an Indian superhero series of "Bahadur". I never even saw Spiderman/Superman comics.

Another highly successful Indian comics were(are?) Diamond comics. They mastered the "paired heros" such as : Mama-Bhanja, Chacha-Bhatija, Lambu-Motu, Rajan-Iqbal, Ram-Rahim, and of course the lovable Chacha Chaudhary

Boy, we used to fight for all these.

[Mapraputa Is]

Sorry. I have heard of Tchaikovsky but cannot say I remember any character Pyotr/Piotr.

Not sure if it's a joke, but Pyotr is Tchaikovsky's first name.

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Terimaki Tojay:
In India, I these comic books were published by "Indra Jaal Comics". They had all the series' - Phantom, Mandrake, Flash Gordon, Rip Kirby except Spiderman and Superman. Besides these they also had an Indian superhero series of "Bahadur". I never even saw Spiderman/Superman comics.

Another highly successful Indian comics were(are?) Diamond comics. They mastered the "paired heros" such as : Mama-Bhanja, Chacha-Bhatija, Lambu-Motu, Rajan-Iqbal, Ram-Rahim, and of course the lovable Chacha Chaudhary

Boy, we used to fight for all these.

I cant pronounce your name but still spiderman, superman etc. were available in not so famous comics series called .... name used to start with G.. if I am not wrong then Goversons comics. It was the publication of Mayapuri House[remember Madhu-Muskan ??] (again if my memory serves correctly).
True, they were pretty expensive compare to other comics. When other comics rate was Rs. 2/- at that time these comics price were Rs. 5/-

Even Astrix was available in Hindi & English by the same publication....
Even I read Zoro also as a series in D..... comics [they also used to print Micky Mouse.]

I still must be having those comics somewhere at my home....

Oh yes, Indrajaal comics, the only Indian character it used to publish was Bahadur(and her girl friend Nanda ... or what was her name.. and that Mukhiya who used to say "Ganga Maiya Kee Kasam")...

oh.... I am getting old ..

But these days I see an abnormal(or normal) behavior in kids .. they dont like comics anymore .. for them entertainment means TV

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Terimaki Tojay:
Ram-Rahim,

I object my lord .... Ram-Rahim were character from Manoj comics not from Diamond comics.

[Helen Thomas]

Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Sorry. I have heard of Tchaikovsky but cannot say I remember any character Pyotr/Piotr.

Not sure if it's a joke, but Pyotr is Tchaikovsky's first name.

I should have guessed from Jim's post had I read it closely.
There's also either a Ballet or Opera or Play playing in London called Tchaikovsky which added to the confusion.
Tchaikovsky

Cherevichki - the slippers is playing too. Must be Tchaikovsky season.

[Terimaki Tojay]

Originally posted by R K Singh:


I object my lord .... Ram-Rahim were character from Manoj comics not from Diamond comics.

I am not 100% sure but I think Manoj comics did not really have a long series. They had different heros. Anyway, you may be right.

But you are 100% wrong on Bahadur's girlfriend. Her name is Bela and not Nanda

[Terimaki Tojay]

Originally posted by R K Singh:


I cant pronounce your name but still spiderman, superman etc. were available in not so famous comics series called .... name used to start with G.. if I am not wrong then Goversons comics. It was the publication of Mayapuri House[remember Madhu-Muskan ??] (again if my memory serves correctly).
True, they were pretty expensive compare to other comics. When other comics rate was Rs. 2/- at that time these comics price were Rs. 5/-

Even Astrix was available in Hindi & English by the same publication....
Even I read Zoro also as a series in D..... comics [they also used to print Micky Mouse.]

I still must be having those comics somewhere at my home....

Oh yes, Indrajaal comics, the only Indian character it used to publish was Bahadur(and her girl friend Nanda ... or what was her name.. and that Mukhiya who used to say "Ganga Maiya Kee Kasam")...

oh.... I am getting old ..

But these days I see an abnormal(or normal) behavior in kids .. they dont like comics anymore .. for them entertainment means TV

Yes!!! I remember madhumuskan and its hero, Daku PaanSingh
Then there were Motu-Patlu (in Lot-pot, I guess). Madhu Muskan had another very funny character UncleJi or something. Also Chotu-Lambu.

I saw some comics that kids read these days very recently. I felt very bad. Instead of clean fun, today's comics show sex and violence just toooooo much. I couldn't even read more than 2-3 pages.

[Terimaki Tojay]

Sorry for the nostalgia guys...but I just remembered another funny character from LotPot - Ghaseeta Ram, who had 20 years of exp. in everything (Bees saal ka tajurba)

[Helen Thomas]

Hope MIRAMAX sell some merchandise as well. I'd buy a Spiderman in his dhoti and chappals to add to my doll collection of 2.

[Jim Yingst]

[HST]: Sorry. I have heard of Tchaikovsky but cannot say I remember any character Pyotr/Piotr.

[Sigh] OK, although I believe I did provide an explanation of why a reasonably well-educated English-speaking person might think (erroneously) that "Pavitr" sounds Russian - I confess I have no idea why Helen Thomas thought so.
[ July 07, 2004: Message edited by: Jim Yingst ]

[Helen Thomas]

Oksana is a Russian name. It sounds Japanese.
Marta is Russian. It sounds German - Jewish. :roll:

More reasonably well-educated Brits keep up with the Archers than Tchaikovsky.
It's a radio series that has been running for 25 years or more. Here's a synopsis of last week's episode.

The Carters settle into the caravan but Emma is mainly staying at Will's and Christopher spends most of his time at Willow Farm. Usha calls round to see Eddie and finds he has been beaten up. Pat and Tony are still worried about Helen who is touchy and moody. Lynda's dog discovers baby hares in the field and David takes Ruth , Kathy and all the children to look at them after school. Jolene has booked an Elvis impersonator for Sid's surprise birthday party but he is too drunk to perform.The party is still a great success and Mike Tucker steps into the breach and takes to the stage. Susan is mortifiedto hear that Christopher is causing problms at Willow Farm. Christopher agrees to move back to the caravan on condition that he can have his birthday party there. Emma also agrees to stay in the caravan more so she and Susan can be together before she gets married. Helen goes missing and Pat and Tony find her sitting by the river . They try to comfort her but she screams at them and runs off again, leaving them shaken by her outburst.Gerald, who makes a living ghosting celebrity biographies and Marta, a Russian born composer who is writing a music score , get off on the wrong foot , are embrolied in a series of misunderstandings and eventually become friends despite Gerald's esoteric cooking habits - deep fried mice and stffed udder in butterscotch sauce

Actually the last bit is from a novel Cooking with Fernet Branca but it won't be long before it makes it into the Archer story in some shape and form.
[ July 08, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]

[Richard Hawkes]

Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
Woman gives birth to frog-like creature

Yeah, I reddit too ...

[Mapraputa Is]

Oksana is a Russian name. It sounds Japanese.



OKSANA
Usage: Ukrainian
Ukrainian form of XENIA

XENIA
Usage: Greek, English
Means "hospitality" in Greek.

Marta is Russian. It sounds German - Jewish.

Marta
"It is the name of old Aramaic origin and it means "empress, mistress, preceptress." The Russian variant of this name is Marpha." "Aramaic is one of the Semitic languages, an important group of languages known almost from the beginning of human history and including also Arabic, Hebrew, Ethiopic, and Akkadian (ancient Babylonian and Assyrian)."

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Terimaki Tojay:
I am not 100% sure but I think Manoj comics did not really have a long series. They had different heros. Anyway, you may be right.

Some more famous characters from Manoj were Kala-Pret, Shera .... I think I need some memory pills ..

But you are 100% wrong on Bahadur's girlfriend. Her name is Bela and not Nanda
10 points given to Tojay for correct answer.

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Terimaki Tojay:
Then there were Motu-Patlu (in Lot-pot, I guess). Madhu Muskan had another very funny character UncleJi or something. Also Chotu-Lambu.

Motu-Patlu, Dr. Jhatka, GhasitaRam's 20 yrs experience all are from Lot-Pot.

In Madu-Muskan, I liked very much Daddy Ji(with Jojo and Headache) and Sustram-Chustram.

Now, I think Daku Pan Singh was inspired by Popeye

I saw some comics that kids read these days very recently. I felt very bad. Instead of clean fun, today's comics show sex and violence just toooooo much. I couldn't even read more than 2-3 pages.
These days comics are not more than any C-grade movie, full of violence and sex

[Helen Thomas]

Originally posted by Richard Hawkes:
Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
[qb]Woman gives birth to frog-like creature

Yeah, I reddit too ...[/QB]

We have uncollaborated confirmation. Do you have a link Richard ?

[achit bhatnager]

I am surprised no body mentioned 'Chacha Chudhary'.
'Kyonki chacha ka dimagcomputer se bhi tej chalta hai'

One of my favorite was 'fauladi singh' but then they started using too many ghost stories.

�Garth� and �Buz Sawyer� were also published by �Indrajaal Comics�