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Originally posted by Max Habibi:
What's next, requiring drivers to wear safety harnesses?
Originally posted by Max Habibi:
What's next, requiring drivers to wear safety harnesses? Banning sky-diving?
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Originally posted by Marilyn de Queiroz:
It seems that the people in Boulder are more into freedom from having to breathe second-hand smoke than freedom to smoke.
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
The UN conducted a study on the harmful effects of second hand smoke. They supressed the report because they found no evidence of any harm caused by second hand smoke.
Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
The UN conducted a study on the harmful effects of second hand smoke. They supressed the report because they found no evidence of any harm caused by second hand smoke.
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Would you feel the same way if the government decided that you shouldn't eat chocolate, or that you should wear a safety helmet at all times, or that you shouldn't drink? In not, you should modify the statement above.
These public places, now and in the past, are operated so that people can eat, drink, and smoke there.
Why not let people decide for themselves if they want to patronize a restaurant that allows smoking
They've never had the right to force anyone to inhale second hand smoke
So I guess the real question is what kind of control does the government have over the issue of smoking? How are they able to tell Billy Bob who owns Billy Bob's BarBQ that his patrons can or cannot smoke in his place of business?
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Actually no. Technically speaking, a restaruant is a place of public accomodation.Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
Technically speaking a resturaunt is not a public place. It is a private establishment that allows the public to dine there.
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Originally posted by Max Habibi:
Yes, but if you, Patty and I are the goverment, do we get to make a rule saying that all persons should pee standing up whil e in public bathrooms? Surely there's a limit?
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Adnan Kadhum of the Baghdad traffic police says he noticed the change about 10 days ago: The city's notoriously unruly drivers suddenly started obeying his commands. They stopped when he signaled for them to stop; they went when he signaled for them to go.
"Before, you found hardly anyone listening to you," the 27-year police force veteran says. Kadhum, 48, spent his days flailing around in 105-degree heat, sometimes waving his pistol in a futile attempt to make motorists follow his commands. "Now, by barely moving my hand, I get respect."
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Originally posted by Jessica Sant:
I kind of think that the main difference with smoking in public places and soem of the above examples is that by smoking, you're imposing on other people.
Healthy or not -- second-hand smoke is a nasty nasty smell and I hate walking into a room full of it, and worse I hate coming home with it permeating every inch of my clothing.
There are laws about how loud someone can play their music -- because the sound imposes on other people.
Growing up I remember playing softball at ball parks where there was a law that the lights had to go out after 10 pm because the bright lights imposed on other people.
What gives one person the right to do something if by doing so they impose on other people? It's a public space right? everyone should have equal right to enjoy the space -- but if someone is playing their music extremely loud, it imposes on the people around them (who have no choice but to listen to it) and those other people may be forced to leave the area...
And what if you live next door to the loud music party?Originally posted by Max Habibi:
You knew it was loud music party: you knew there were other parties that didn't have loud music. Why not let the headbangers(and the people who can stand the music) have their fun @ their thingo, and simply choose to go elsewhere? That way, there's compromise. You don't get their dirty smoke, and they get to do their thing. It seems like the most egalatrian solution, to me.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
And what if you live next door to the loud music party?
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I guess I didn't understand what you are talking about. Jessica made the point that the law allows us to prevent you from imposing on other people and used anti-noise laws as an example. I don't think she was talking in terms of any metaphors.
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