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For attracting many customers,Air Deccan,new Airline has already introduced cheaper Air fare.
Some of the seats for each flight will be for Rs 500+200(for Govt),so total is Rs 700.i.e.approx.$15
I was wandering how Airline will be able to afford.and this fare is constant regardless of distance.So Delhi to Bangalore,2200KM ,one can travel in Rs 700,if booked in advance.
How much do you pay for Air distance of 1000KM(750 miles)in your country?
I called for booking ,and they say all Rs 700 fares are booked till March 15.
 
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
For attracting many customers,Air Deccan,new Airline has already introduced cheaper Air fare.
Some of the seats for each flight will be for Rs 500+200(for Govt),so total is Rs 700.i.e.approx.$15
I was wandering how Airline will be able to afford.and this fare is constant regardless of distance.So Delhi to Bangalore,2200KM ,one can travel in Rs 700,if booked in advance.
How much do you pay for Air distance of 1000KM(750 miles)in your country?
I called for booking ,and they say all Rs 700 fares are booked till March 15.



Its illusion or say marketting trick.

Did you check there site and try to find out actual fare.... and anyway they are using LCC (Low carrier ********) so fare will be cheaper. They are renting/outsourcing maintenance engineer etc.. there also they are saving money.

But I studied something more abt it.
It works like this.
You can book your ticket in 90 days advance.
The first 5 tickets will be sold at lowest rate say Rs 700/-
Next 3 tickets will be sold at 1200 and so on ..

Planning a trip 90 days advance for me its impossible (if not impossible then really tough).

They have reduce the space to accomodate more seats than normal.

What I heard that they are not going to serve food in flight. Everything you have to buy(reminds me of railway vendors ) and I like the funda because I am NOT using flight to get 5 star hotel food but I want to save time. I just want to reach my destination early.

will give you first hand information after 28th Sep.
 
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Great!
From their website:
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The company has a modern fleet of ATR-42-320 aircraft, one of the finest and most efficient Turbo-Prop aircraft flying.
ATR is a European joint venture between Alenia Aeronautica and EADS. The ATR 42 has become a reference aircraft amongst airlines around the world, by offering a safe, easy to maintain and comfortable aircraft operating on the regional market with the best economics on short haul sectors. To date, ATR has sold over 650 aircraft to more than 100 operators in 73 countries all around the world.

Our company has adopted a 'lean-and-mean' approach to staffing and aims at maintaining a low aircraft-to-employee ratio.
We have some of the most experienced administrators, aircrew and engineers on our rolls.
A good work culture coupled with a skilled workforce is the backbone of the company.
}
Turbo planes takes longer time,right?I asked them for Bangalore-Mumbai,one guy replied that it will take 2.5 hours .It has also a halt at Belgaum or Kolhapur
 
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Originally posted by R K Singh:

They have reduce the space to accomodate more seats than normal.

What I heard that they are not going to serve food in flight.




I doubt where they can change to accomodate more people(Unless they allow standing! )
More info about Aircraft
I am sure many European ranchers must have travelled by these kind of Air crafts as these are quite popular in Europe.
Air Deccan is giving salary of 1.8 Lakh/month to its pilots.Thats US $3913 per month.(Thats more than what BEA/Trilogy offers to programmers with 6 years experience ,right Pradeep? )
But now this is horrible
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Air Deccan is also taking a Rs 35,000 deposit from the air-hostesses it recruits. This condition was introduced after six of its recruits recently quit to join Air-India.
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Air Deccan asks Rs 35,000 from Flight Attendents at the time of joining
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Originally posted by R K Singh:
using LCC (Low carrier ********)



LCC => Low Cost Carrier

 
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
I doubt where they can change to accomodate more people



The moment you serve meals, you require extra space to store the meals. You remove that space and put more seats. [info]

There is no business class just economy class; this increases the number of seats per flight.
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Thats . Air Deccan and other air lines,I am sure will going to hire Operation Researchers in future.
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Businesses have used optimization or operations research�a proven, mathematics-based approach for complex decision-making�for many years. Airlines use it in flight planning.
It helps the airlines stay on time by determining the most reliable scheduling possible for airline crews
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
Thats . Air Deccan and other air lines,I am sure will going to hire Operation Researchers in future.
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Businesses have used optimization or operations research�a proven, mathematics-based approach for complex decision-making�for many years. Airlines use it in flight planning.
It helps the airlines stay on time by determining the most reliable scheduling possible for airline crews
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Not only that, but it can be used for calculating how much to charge for different seats and how many to release at different times. I seem to remember that BA had a system based on OR calculations that was estimated to be worth �300M per year to the company in optimised yield.
 
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Travelled today by Air Deccan .There is no business class/executive class.Plane was completely packed.Snacks,one needs to purchase if hungry.
Total distance: 1000KM~700 miles
Money I wasted:2400+150+55(food)=Rs 2605
Duration:1.5 hours
Plane type: Airbus 320

 
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If you think thats cheap, checkout www.ryanair.ie, the first ever successful low-cost airlines company.

They are offering more than a million free flights at any point of time between all major European cities, and many more small destinations. They are a firm favourite here, and since they started operating a few years ago, they have consistently posted double-figure profits. Now, all that in a very expensive part of the world!

How do they do that? Well, apart from aggressive marketing and direct ticket sales (no middle-man or travel agent, no fancy tickets, buy off their website and take a printout of the ticket OR note down your booking number), they have a number of other very important tricks in practice.

They have planned their schedules so that their aircrafts spend more time flying that wasting money sitting in the tarmac. Not serving fancy in-flight food and services not only saves them the cost of food and service, but also, associated security concerns; it also means a lot of time saved unloading/loading the aircraft at the airports.

They sell cheap tickets on otherwise unpopular routes, for example a mid-week ticket to Ibiza or Canneries (the party-destination for all young Europeans) will be 0 euros where as more convenient weekend ticket would cost same as other airliners. Also they fly to cheaper airports outside the main cities, which saves them loads (some of the smaller airports, or their regional authorities pays ryanair for flying in there, because it brings business and development to the region too).

Altogether, it looks like a win-win situation and low-cost airlines are the way to go, especially for countries like India, where there will be no shortage for business travellers in a foreseeable future, IMHO!
 
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Money I wasted:2400+150+55(food)=Rs 2605



Will u be considering this option again in future or it's totally a waste?
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Just saw a story in the paper about someone arrested for selling tickets for an airline that doesn't exist. Now that's keeping your expenses down!
 
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Ryanair wasn't the first (though they may claim to be) but are certainly a success.

Problem is many people after travelling with them once swear to never do so again because of the quality of the service (which is even lower than the price).

The deals where cities pay Ryanair to fly to their airports are coming under increasing scrutiny after the first such deal was declared illegal in European court earlier this year (illegal government subsidies).

The airline is also taking a lot of heat for unsafe and unsavory practices.
So were they forced to fire an entire crew (scapegoats...) after they had placed several employees in the toilets for takeoff and landing when no seats were available for them. The employees were a relief crew positioning elsewhere. Had noone called aviation authorities and complained about this illegal practice it would likely have gone on.
 
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