The curse may be reversed, but the streak is done!

[Eric Fletcher]

Go Steelers!!!



Man what a great game by the Steelers and Big Ben! I'd say he is one more win away from locking up Rookie of the Year if he hasn't already!

24 points off turnovers, and those TOs were forced, not gifts. Speaking of "TOs", one undefeated team down, one more to go next week!

I will say this, what the Pats did over the past year was amazing, might never be done again, andI give them all the credit in the world, but that was an old fashioned butt whoopin' and the Pats supplied the butts!

[John Dunn]

A HUGE loss for the Pats. Could be the break the Jets needed to win the division!!!

btw, the Giants just arrived today...

can't wait for the post-season in NYC

[Jason Menard]

The streak had to end some time. However, with both starting cornerbacks out of the game, down one starting wide receiver, the starting running back sitting injured in stree clothes on the sideline, and both starting tackles out (contributing to the pressure felt by Brady), I'm neither too worried about the rest of the season nor am I as impressed with the win as the folks in Pittsburgh are. This was similar to the loss against the Redskins last year. At some point injuries can hobble even the best teams in the league.

The Pats were going to lose eventually. Now was as good a time as any. To be honest, I don't understand the reaction from the Pittsburgh fans to winning a game against a team that was so depleted the Dolphins could have beat them. You'd think they just won the Super Bowl or something.

[John Dunn]

I love listening to Boston fans explain away another loss!!!

[Jason Menard]

Originally posted by John Dunn:
I love listening to Boston fans explain away another loss!!!

Another loss? You must be confused. I don't recall many losses lately by either the Pats or the Red Sox.

[Eric Fletcher]

Originally posted by Jason Menard:

The Pats were going to lose eventually. Now was as good a time as any. To be honest, I don't understand the reaction from the Pittsburgh fans to winning a game against a team that was so depleted the Dolphins could have beat them. You'd think they just won the Super Bowl or something.

Somehow I knew that would come up. The Steelers were playing without a starting corner and their best D lineman out, too. Injuries happen in the NFL, but I'm sure every team the Pats beat in their streak was 100% healthy...

:roll:
[ November 01, 2004: Message edited by: Eric Fletcher ]

[Thomas Paul]

Injuries are part of the NFL. The best teams win in spite of their injuries. The annoying fans whine about their team's injuries. The most annoying fans whine as if their team is the only team in the NFL who has ever had a player miss a game.

[Jason Menard]

Actually, the most annoying and whining fans are always New York fans. That's just common knowledge. Baseball, football, it doesn't matter.

But I digress... Inuries are part of the NFL. Everyone knows that. Everyone also knows that too many of them makes it pretty difficult for even the deepest teams to win consistently. It caught up with them Sunday. No big deal. After two Super Bowl wins in three years and the longest winning streak in NFL history, they've done plenty to satisfy me as a fan for quite awhile now. I'm not going to freak if they drop a few games here and there. If I were a Pittsburgh fan though, and they do seem to be a pretty decent team (like the 2001 team), I would just try to keep the win in perspective.
[ November 01, 2004: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Actually, the most annoying and whining fans are always New York fans. That's just common knowledge. Baseball, football, it doesn't matter.

At least no one dies at our victory parades.

[Eric Fletcher]

Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Inuries are part of the NFL. Everyone knows that. Everyone also knows that too many of them makes it pretty difficult for even the deepest teams to win consistently. It caught up with them Sunday. No big deal. After two Super Bowl wins in three years and the longest winning streak in NFL history, they've done plenty to satisfy me as a fan for quite awhile now. I'm not going to freak if they drop a few games here and there. If I were a Pittsburgh fan though, and they do seem to be a pretty decent team (like the 2001 team), I would just try to keep the win in perspective.

[ November 01, 2004: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]

Agreed, it's tough to win 5 games in a row in the NFL, let alone 21, which is why I said I give them a lot of credit in my initial message. And I agree, even as a die-hard Steeler fan, I try to think with my head, not my heart, they are still a young team with a rookie QB, albeit one who doesn't play like a rookie. So I won't gloat(too much) about the win, especially since there is a very good chance that won't be the last time the Pats and Steelers are going to meet this year.

As a measuring stick game, I think the Eagles game will be a good test. If Pittsburgh can knock them off as well, then I think you have to start talking about them as an elite team. Time will tell...

[Kishore Dandu]

Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Injuries are part of the NFL. The best teams win in spite of their injuries. The annoying fans whine about their team's injuries. The most annoying fans whine as if their team is the only team in the NFL who has ever had a player miss a game.

Well said.

It is proven by cowboys against the lions over the weekend(they won after several injury losses over the last week or so)

[Jason Menard]

Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
At least no one dies at our victory parades.

Are you sure? You'd have to think back awhile to when the last NY victory was, particularly in football.

Maybe your fans prefer to keep their battery and ice ball throwing to the games. Maybe it has something to do with the large contingent of riot police that NY feels it necessary to keep on hand (I wonder why). But regarding the unfortunate Boston incident, it wasn't at a parade.

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Are you sure? You'd have to think back awhile to when the last NY victory was, particularly in football.

Well, it wasn't in 1918. In fact, it was in 1991. But we also had a Stanley Cup since then and a few World Series wins. No deaths and no riots. No overturned burning cars. No chants of "Red Sox suck" at a football celebration! Lets' face it, Boston fans are very low class fans and suffer from the worst inferiority complex in sports.

[Jason Menard]

Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Lets' face it, Boston fans are very low class fans and suffer from the worst inferiority complex in sports.

And yet despite this claim of yours, it is in fact New York fans who nationwide have the absolute worst reputation and who repeatedly demonstrate time and again their level of civility. They already keep the riot police handy, maybe NY sports teams should do like Philly and place a jail in courtroom at the stadiums. I'm sure they'd be well used.

I've got a good friend who bartends at an ESPN Sportszone in Baltimore, which happens to be very close to the places where both the Orioles and Ravens play. Naturally it's one of the top spots for visiting sports fans, and we've had a conversation about this topic. On Boston fans she deals with - generally really nice folk and they tip well according to her. On New York fans - generally obnoxious according to her.

Face it, the reputation of NY sports fans preceeds them. It will take quite a lot for them to shake the stigma they carry.

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Jason Menard:
And yet despite this claim of yours, it is in fact New York fans who nationwide have the absolute worst reputation and who repeatedly demonstrate time and again their level of civility. They already keep the riot police handy, maybe NY sports teams should do like Philly and place a jail in courtroom at the stadiums. I'm sure they'd be well used.

You keep syaing this but it is Boston that had riots, arrests, and a death, not NY. Look at almost every city in the nation other than NY and what you see is that after a sports victory there are riots. In NY there are peaceful celebrations without injuries, damage to property, or deaths. And anyone who thinks that any city besides Cleveland deserves the name of "worst fans" doesn't know anything about baseball history.

http://www.worldzone.net/sports/baseball/disasters.html

[Gregg Bolinger]

Jason, Tom..Don't make us start banning sports talk too.

[Joel McNary]

So, as a die-hard Pittsburgh fan, I am psyched for tomorrow's game against the Eagles. This is a particularly fun game, as I now find myself in the Philadelphia area and will cheer for the Eagles -- so long as they're 1) not playing at the same time as teh Steelers, and 2). not playing against the Steelers, of course
[ November 07, 2004: Message edited by: Joel McNary ]

[Donald R. Cossitt]

Another loss? You must be confused. I don't recall many losses lately by either the Pats or the Red Sox.

Yeah! It happens once a century....

[Eric Fletcher]

One more undefeated goes down at Heinz Field. The '72 Dolphins just added the Steelers to their Christmas card lists!

Another dominant game by Pittsburgh, in all aspects of the game. The O-line is just bulldozing teams, although I am still cautiously optimistic because the Pats were banged up and the Eagles have shown a weakness against the run. But what the Steelers D did to a very good Eagle offense was not for general audiences, they absolutely stuffed them. And probably most amazing, they managed to thoroughly dominate a strong opponent while losing the turnonver battle!

I think right now they have to be put in the elite status in the league.
[ November 08, 2004: Message edited by: Eric Fletcher ]