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"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift; that's why they call it the present." Eleanor Roosevelt
Pounding at a thick stone wall won't move it, sometimes, you need to step back to see the way around.
what?
Matthew Phillips
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Wait a minute, I'm trying to think of something clever to say...<p>Joel
Originally posted by Joel Cochran:
For me it the embodiment of "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day, Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime."
I read several Java books before I found the Ranch, but as a Procedural boy (Johannes and I are going to start a club) I never could get the hang of it all. I could copy examples all day long but never really understood how they worked. In other words, I was always given the fish before, but the Ranch handed me a pole and said "go get 'em!"
What I've gotten most from the Ranch is the confidence that I can use my existing problem solving skills in entirely new ways and I can actually [b]understand what I'm doing. The one on one communication with the NitPickers is invaluable to my learning process and something you don't even really get in formal education.
You want feedback Marilyn? You guys are the best! Thanks for everything.
Joel[/B]
Matthew Phillips
"Happiness is a way to Travel, <b>Not</b> a Destination" -- Unknown
Sam Tilley SCJP, SCWCD
JavaBeginnersFaq
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift; that's why they call it the present." Eleanor Roosevelt
Matthew Phillips
Of those having completed the Cattle Drive, do you think it's worth the $200.00?
Ask a Meaningful Question and HowToAskQuestionsOnJavaRanch
Getting someone to think and try something out is much more useful than just telling them the answer.
Originally posted by juliane gross:
In the cattle drive, I admire also how extremely well the pedagogic structure is done. Every single assignment so far has been difficult to solve, but never too difficult.
Originally posted by Sean Webster:
Is it worth the $200 and can I take my time with it since my work load hits peaks and lulls frequently.
Originally posted by Matthew Philips:
"Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand." (Fowler)
Originally posted by Carol Murphy:
I do hope you decide to join us on the drive!
Then I understood that there a need to buy a book (Peter's van der Linden "Just Java 2")
then to buy broadband access Internet connection for downloading Orion, MySQL, JDK1.4, etc. This is already 3 times the 200. Doesn't it?
This does not convince me. I worked recent years in outsourcing, a few months per place and feel like inventing the ways to leave things (and even invent the system for it) codified so that nobody would have understood without me.
Why should I care about others if nobody cared about me in first place?
What I find more important is to get ability to read the (illegible ) code without any comments and clues.
But I sincerely would like to know, who exactly will be nitpicking.
Matthew Phillips
JavaBeginnersFaq
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift; that's why they call it the present." Eleanor Roosevelt
Matthew Phillips
We should throw him a surprise party. It will cheer him up. We can use this tiny ad:
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