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im not sure the exact limit here in oregon, but im sure that, like other states, we have usery laws, and if i charged someone more than about 10% interest i could be charged and even jailed. yet when i was in a loan "store" to cash a small check the other day they had this great big sign showing the fees for loans and the interest rate they charged was 510% APR
 
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Scott Peterson sure is...
 
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Yes! There is justice. Think they'll give him the death penalty? (Peterson - not the check cashing place...)

(sorry 'bout the hijack, Randall...)
 
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Originally posted by Randall Twede:
im not sure the exact limit here in oregon, but im sure that, like other states, we have usery laws, and if i charged someone more than about 10% interest i could be charged and even jailed. yet when i was in a loan "store" to cash a small check the other day they had this great big sign showing the fees for loans and the interest rate they charged was 510% APR



They don't charge interest, they charge fees, handling charges etc. They are basically a very sleazy lot. There was a long series of articles in the Toronto Star about these sleaze bags, they prey on those who are down on their luck. Don't use them.
 
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Originally posted by Elaine Micheals:
Yes! There is justice. Think they'll give him the death penalty? (Peterson - not the check cashing place...)

(sorry 'bout the hijack, Randall...)



I guess most probably life sentence. Though his behavior was very suspicious during his wife's missing, there's no direct evidence against him. I couldn't understand, without concrete evidence, how did the jury come up with this verdict?
 
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I asked my wife about the evidence in this case. She is a former trial attorney, and has worked as both a prosecutor and a defender.

According to her, MOST cases only have circumstantial evidence. Very seldom do you have actual concrete evidence in a case. The prosecution tries to show links between all the pieces, and the defense tries to pick apart each piece, thus breaking the connection.

think about it - if the blood tested at the crime scene matches mine, does that PROVE i was there? the DNA screening only says "one out of 1,000,000 (or whatever the number really is) match the blood found at the scene, and fred is one of them".

Now, in the greater metropolitan area of St. Louis (where i live), that means there are something like 5 people who could match. Plus, since i give blood to the red cross, somebody could have gotten my blood from there, and planted it.

Now if my hair is also found there, and a shoe-print that matches a pair of shoes i own, and the dead victim left all their money to me in their will...

NONE of these individual facts PROVE anything, but they all start to add up...

that's how our legal system works most of the time.
 
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Originally posted by fred rosenberger:
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According to her, MOST cases only have circumstantial evidence. Very seldom do you have actual concrete evidence in a case. ...
NONE of these individual facts PROVE anything, but they all start to add up...



I'd say that there is no such thing as proof of anything... well almost. The only thing (as far as I am so far aware of) that cannot be disproved is the idea "There is not nothing". Everything else is a matter of probabilities. I can't prove that the sun will come up tomorrow - I'm pretty sure it will, but its not 100% certain. I suppose that's why the law says something along the lines of "Proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt".
 
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