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I was watching The Simpsons, when Lisa was helping Homer guess who would win football matches. I think Marge said something about gambling on football being illegal. In the States is this true? I often gamble on soccer matches, mostly against teams I know will always lose, no names mentioned.
 
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There are legal sport books in the U.S., mostly in the big gambling places like Las Vegas. go to almost any hotel there, and they have a betting parlor there larger than some of the casinos in St. Louis (which isn't really saying a whole lot).

I think it's a state by state issue, however. I'm not sure what the legalities would be if I, living in St. Louis, MO, tried calling a casino in Las Vegas, NV and placed a bet on the Rams beating some other team.
 
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It's illegal in most states to bet on sports. So it doesn't matter where the bookie is, in fact, since it is a federal crime to bet on sports, you would be violating both state and federal law. The only state where sports betting is legal is Nevada. All other states are prohibited from making sports betting legal by the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992. This grandfathered in states that had legal sports gambling (Nevada) and gave one year for any other state that wanted to make it legal (none did and the year expired). The law means, "in order to accept lawful sports wagers on college or professional football, the casino must be located in Nevada and only accept wagers from Nevada residents."
 
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If betting on sports is illegal in USA - then how come the US has horse racing? Even I've heard of the "Kentucky Derby"

..Surely there cant be horse racing without betting? Whats the point?
 
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the casino must be located in Nevada and only accept wagers from Nevada residents.


Interesting. So if i go to Cesars Palace, i can't place a bet, since i live in missouri? I'm willing to bet (pardon the pun) that they don't really check that out there. There's no way those huge parlors are only catering to locals... not in the big strip casinos...
 
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for sports betting, probably yes.

As to horse races, there may well be excemptions for specific sports or events, or maybe it was simply written somewhere that horseracing isn't a sport and therefore the law doesn't apply to it...
 
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Does that law apply to professional betting only (in casinos), or does it apply to private parties as well? I mean, if lay $5 on my kitchen table against my wife's $5 on the result of the football game, would that be illegal? What would be the punishment for my crime under the federal law?
 
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Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
If betting on sports is illegal in USA - then how come the US has horse racing? Even I've heard of the "Kentucky Derby"

..Surely there cant be horse racing without betting? Whats the point?



There is a separate law for horse racing and jai-lai. They are not covered by the sports betting law.
 
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Originally posted by fred rosenberger:
Interesting. So if i go to Cesars Palace, i can't place a bet, since i live in missouri? I'm willing to bet (pardon the pun) that they don't really check that out there. There's no way those huge parlors are only catering to locals... not in the big strip casinos...



You must be physically in Nevada in order to place the bet. That excludes phone and internet sports betting. You don't have to be a resident of Nevada.
 
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oh... so by resident you don't mean "living and dwelling in the state". my misunderstanding. sorry!!!
 
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Originally posted by John Smith:
Does that law apply to professional betting only (in casinos), or does it apply to private parties as well? I mean, if lay $5 on my kitchen table against my wife's $5 on the result of the football game, would that be illegal? What would be the punishment for my crime under the federal law?



The pool you do in your office or local bar and that bet with your wife are violations of federal law. Criminal penalties range from imprisonment of one to ten years, and a fine of between $5,000 to $20,000. However, it is highly unlikely that the federal government would prosecute anyone for betting $5.
 
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Ok, so Thomas, now i have to ask. Do you just know all this stuff, or are you just an expert researcher? I've seen you post on legal issues, hard-core science (quantum physics, space/time relations), and several other topics as well.

i just want to know if i should be in awe of your acquired knowledge, or your ability to find answers to tough questions in the blink of an eye...

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I find sports betting strange. I have one betandwin desperado as collegue. The more advanced sport betters don't set on stuff like Liverpool will win 2:0 against Arsenal, but more like: there will be >21 throw in in first half of that game. Or there will be <3 yellow cards in that other game.
Allways checking win-quotas and it can consume quite some time.
 
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Originally posted by Axel Janssen:
I find sports betting strange. I have one betandwin desperado as collegue. The more advanced sport betters don't set on stuff like Liverpool will win 2:0 against Arsenal, but more like: there will be >21 throw in in first half of that game. Or there will be <3 yellow cards in that other game.
Allways checking win-quotas and it can consume quite some time.



The Super Bowl is very big for odd bets like these:

http://govegas.about.com/cs/sportsbetting/a/superbowl.htm?once=true&
 
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Originally posted by fred rosenberger:
i just want to know if i should be in awe of your acquired knowledge, or your ability to find answers to tough questions in the blink of an eye...

Both! Or to put it another way, it is easy to find things on google when you know what you are looking for.
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Is betting on sports illegal because of the possibility of corruption of the athletics or is it a Christian low?
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
Is betting on sports illegal because of the possibility of corruption of the athletics or is it a Christian low?



The possibility of corruption and specifically the public's perception of the integrity of amateur and professional sports. The head of the NBA was a strong supporter of the bill to outlaw sports betting.
 
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Its a shame for you guys, because I often bet against my own team to reduce stress, like I did in the world cup. If England won the world cup , I would have become bankrupt but they lost, so I made a win. Whatever happens I was happy with the results.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
Its a shame for you guys, because I often bet against my own team to reduce stress, like I did in the world cup. If England won the world cup , I would have become bankrupt but they lost, so I made a win. Whatever happens I was happy with the results.



Just before Euro 2004 my office had a sweepstake. At the end all the teams had been taken apart from Greece, which no-one wanted. I considered having it myself, but considered it a waste of money. Idiot.

My half-Greek girlfriend wasn't too impressed either! :roll:
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considered it a waste of money. Idiot.



For those that don't follow football, Greece were thought to be one of the worst teams in the finals, but managed to win the competition, beating some of the best teams in Europe along the way.
 
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I have greek collegue who is hardcore football fan and semi-profesional better. In every round of our company internal betting game all his bets were against Greece.
He needed 2 days extra-hollydays after the final to convalesce from party.
 
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Originally posted by John Smith:
Does that law apply to professional betting only (in casinos), or does it apply to private parties as well? I mean, if lay $5 on my kitchen table against my wife's $5 on the result of the football game, would that be illegal? What would be the punishment for my crime under the federal law?



The Dutch government has started taxing office football pools under the same law which taxes lotteries.
Of course they get very few people to actually pay the taxes, but if they could be bothered they could start to enforce the law but that likely costs more than it brings in so they don't, instead raking in the taxes from more public pools like those organised by pubs and football clubs...
 
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