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Hi,
My friend is interested in thinking of starting franchise in India for some popular restaurent chain in USA or worldwide.
Can anybody give the list of restaurent chains in USA/worldwide?like McDonald,KFC/Taco Bell etc?

Thanks

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What style of restaurant was he thinking of?
What quisine (ok, that question excludes McD implicitly)?
 
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Other than fast food I don't think the US is known for other types of restaurant chains.

McDonalds isn't a style icon anymore but note how they have captured the under-5 to 15 market with free mobile ringtones and McIncredible games given with the Twisty fries.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
What style of restaurant was he thinking of?
What quisine (ok, that question excludes McD implicitly)?



. He is looking at fast food chain similar to McDonalds/KFC/Burger King.McDonald already has few franchises in 2/3 cities in India.IMO,they might not be making huge profit here as cost of food there is on little higher side.For example:1 chicken burger+Fries+coke costs Rs 94 or 105 I think.In other Indian descent resturents,two people can eat in Rs 94,unlimited! .
Mainly he is looking for those fast food chains which can become popular here.As you must be knowing Beef/Pork is not much popular here.IMO Taco Bell(Anybody from Ca?) can be popular here!
Please mention some of the fast food chains in your areas(preferably with their websites )
 
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Originally posted by Helen Thomas:

McDonalds isn't a style icon anymore but note how they have captured the under-5 to 15 market with free mobile ringtones and McIncredible games given with the Twisty fries.
[ January 11, 2005: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]


Yes,thats the 'target' . He is only looking for Fas food chain franchise.
 
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I found one site www.bajafresh.com Does anybody go there regularly?
Their food might become popular here.


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Baja Fresh has decent, inexpensive "Mexican" food in a cafeteria-like atmosphere. Much higher quality food than Taco Bell.
 
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Wasn't there a resturant chain called "Sambo's"? That would be a natural for India, since the name was based on an Indian folk tale (perhaps brought to the west by Rudyard Kipling).
 
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Baja Fresh is pretty popular here in Columbus, Ohio (USA). I believe they are owned by Wendy's. I have heard that they require all owners to use cash only for startup costs (no loans).

Subway might be another good choice.

If you go with Taco Bell (although it is mostly beef items) it is a part of YUM! corporations, which also owns Pizza Hut, KFC, Long John Silver's (seafood), A&W (burger joint popular for root beer), and a few others.
 
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Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
Other than fast food I don't think the US is known for other types of restaurant chains.



Perhaps we're not 'known' for them, but there are numerous chains that do not serve fast food. How about Olive Garden, Chili's, Ponderosa, Applebee's, Denny's, Perkins, Outback Steak House, Red Lobster, Friendly's, and many, many others. I'm not claiming that they would all necessarily work outside of the US, or that they are significantly healthier than the fast food, but they do exist. FWIW.
 
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Originally posted by Andrew Eccleston:


Perhaps we're not 'known' for them, but there are numerous chains that do not serve fast food. How about Olive Garden, Chili's, Ponderosa, Applebee's, Denny's, Perkins, Outback Steak House, Red Lobster, Friendly's, and many, many others. I'm not claiming that they would all necessarily work outside of the US, or that they are significantly healthier than the fast food, but they do exist. FWIW.



That's exactly what Helen meant, America is not known for them and it is very much likely they will fail for how expensive they are.

I kept thinking about Dunkin dounuts. It is relatively easy to get it running outside of US, but will it succeed?
 
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Red Lobster is nice.
I doubt a real Maine Lobster would still be fresh by the time it gets to Bangalore though...

Denny's I'd class under fast food, Applebee's I've seen but not visited (there was a RL across the street).
 
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Originally posted by Rita Moore:

I kept thinking about Dunkin dounuts. It is relatively easy to get it running outside of US, but will it succeed?


Donuts,I am not sure.People across the country have different eating habits.Actually except floating population,people generally avoid eating breakfast outside their homes.Also people avoid eating bakery products in many parts of the country.
 
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
Red Lobster is nice.
I doubt a real Maine Lobster would still be fresh by the time it gets to Bangalore though...


Yes,Actually he is open to any location.Not necessary cities but he is also considering big towns.As people escpecially in 20s/30s/40s are becoming more health conscious than ever before,Baja Fresh could be a better option rather than just provding burgers/fries where only college/school crowd could get attracted.(Also number of people complaining about country getting westernised will be less as Baja Fresh offers Mexican Food )
Any other Fast Food chains?
 
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I like Baja Fresh a lot, and from my limited knowledge I think it could do well in India. You'd need access to fresh fish (or some sort - I suspect you can substitute) and shrimp (prawns). I assume that's not too difficult. I seriously doubt it would matter much whether the prawns come from Baja Mexico or somewhere much closer.

Another chain with similar offerings here is

www.wahoos.com

Maybe not quite as good as Baja, but close. Probably worth an inquiry. Also:

www.chipotle.com
www.qdoba.com

These also both serve Mexican food, but not seafood than Baja Fresh and Wahoo's. The main meals are burritos and fajitas with chicken, steak, rice, and/or beans. Probably not as healthy as BF & W, but pretty good. Much better than Taco Bell.

Also number of people complaining about country getting westernised will be less as Baja Fresh offers Mexican Food

Ssshhh, don't tell them which hemisphere Mexico is in.
 
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:

Yes,Actually he is open to any location.Not necessary cities but he is also considering big towns.



what I meant was that a lobster caught in Maine, USA (which is the hallmark of the Red Lobster menu) would no longer be fresh enough to be served once it reaches Bangalore...

Maybe he'd be allowed to substitute frozen lobster but it wouldn't be the same
 
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Thanks guys for providing the links.As far as I rememeber,I went once to Sweet Tomatoes.Its was good deal,$6 with unlimited raw vegetable+cakes and much more....Not sure people here will dare to enter only to eat raw vegs+cakes,somewhat not so popular combination here.But people in late 30s and 40s,it might work.(Largest number of diabetic patients are in India.)
 
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:

what I meant was that a lobster caught in Maine, USA (which is the hallmark of the Red Lobster menu) would no longer be fresh enough to be served once it reaches Bangalore...


In that case it might not work even though lobsters(not red one) are available in Indian ocean.
 
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Apart from Mcdonald which is doing good business in a few big cities and dominos pizza, pizza hut, there r not much western chain in india.
One must take into account the food habit in india and that too it differs from region to region.
Mexican food sounds a good idea as other than pizza and burger other western food are not very popular. note that the restaurent but also cater to veggie people as many in India r veggie . U must recall KFC flopped in India (well, there were some other issue too why they closed down).
Taco Bell type restaurent sounds a good idea..mexican food r prefered by indians as it is spicy too.
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There are already a few food courts/restaurants in Chennai that serve Mexican food. I have had enchiladas, quesidillas, burritos etc, and have known them to be quite popular with the 20-something crowds. Of course, there is some taste difference, and the people who serve/order them don't really know how to pronounce it
Mexican seems to be the safest bet because it uses ingredients that are common to Indian cuisine, like tomatoes, peppers, cilantro/coriander - so people can relate to it (somewhat), and the ingredients are easily procurable. Mexican food can also be spiced up to suit Indian taste.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:

Denny's I'd class under fast food, Applebee's I've seen but not visited (there was a RL across the street).



Out of curiosity then, what are we calling 'fast food'? I usually consider any place that you sit down, and a waiter/waitress takes your order and brings you the food as not being 'fast food'. That's why I mentioned Denny's. Any place with a drive-through/take-out window, or where you have to order, pay, and pick up your food at the counter, I would typically call 'fast food'.

I haven't figured out where to put buffet only places like Old Country Buffet, though. Since, I don't much care for buffet style eating, I rarely even go to them.

Also, I know Denny's and TGI Friday's has locations in Canada, so they may be an option elsewhere, too.
 
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
Baja Fresh has decent, inexpensive "Mexican" food in a cafeteria-like atmosphere. Much higher quality food than Taco Bell.



I agree about the quality. But it lost battle with 'Chipotle' in Dallas area and had to close one location and is struggling in the others, in Dallas.

Just a FYI.
 
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:


I agree about the quality. But it lost battle with 'Chipotle' in Dallas area and had to close one location and is struggling in the others, in Dallas.

Just a FYI.



BTW Chipotle is owned by Mcdonalds.

Red Lobster falls under the same umbrella as Olive Garden,Bahama Breeze(Bahama Breeze not doing good lately though, had to close some locations etc) and Big Bowl from same folks closed down many locations.
 
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As this top 50 list shows, Subway has by far the highest number of franchises. They seem to be popping up on every street corner here. They can be reasonably healthy, and making sandwiches doesn't require a lot of high tech setup, so the prices can be kept low.

The Subway home page has more info on franchises. It appears to have some of the lowest startup costs that you're going to find.

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Originally posted by Andrew Eccleston:


Out of curiosity then, what are we calling 'fast food'? I usually consider any place that you sit down, and a waiter/waitress takes your order and brings you the food as not being 'fast food'. That's why I mentioned Denny's. Any place with a drive-through/take-out window, or where you have to order, pay, and pick up your food at the counter, I would typically call 'fast food'.



Ah, only Dennys I've been was a long time ago when they (or at least that franchise) used a similar system to McD and co.
Or maybe my memory of those long bygone days is seriously flawed
 
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To be fair, Jeroen, I haven't been to many Denny's locations, so maybe they do have some that are set up the in the manner you experienced. I think I'll be on the lookout for those, as I think it might be fun to see!
 
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
Hi,
My friend is interested in thinking of starting franchise in India for some popular restaurent chain in USA or worldwide.
Can anybody give the list of restaurent chains in USA/worldwide?like McDonald,KFC/Taco Bell etc?

Thanks


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The right way to get rich in franchising is to be the franchisor, not the franchisee. I suggest you and your friend get together with a few others and start a good Indian franchise chain. I don't know how well it will do over there, but its sadly missing in Toronto.
 
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In Toronto,it might do well but in India I doubt unless you provide totally new concept.I see curently there are 3 types of resturents who serve the food in 3 cities(Mumbai-Pune-Bangalore).
1)100% Vegeterian
2)Non-vege
3)Non-vege with alchohol.
Very few resturents provide the type of food the Baja Fresh serves.i.e. Fresh raw vegs. with non-vege.The resurents who specialize in non-vege generally adevertize for their non-vege speciality.The 'diet conscious' people are increasing in cities.They might prefer raw vegs with chicken sandwitch than spicy butter chicken with Rotis.IMO,some detailed study needs to be carried out for eating habits.Eating habits change after every 200 miles as language changes.
 
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