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Originally posted by Marcus Green:
There is a view that waste is everybodys business
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Originally posted by Andrew Eccleston:
If SF does start charging, it will be interesting what new choices come along.
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"Germany charges for each shopping bag nationwide. So in Germany you'll often see people shopping with reuseable shopping bags made of _cloth_. You can get new cloth shopping bags from all retail stores, it is considered very environment friendly to shop with cloth shopping bags."
Originally posted by Steven Bell:
Are plastic bags really that much of a problem??? I often get plastic bags from the grocery store. They make great garbage bags for cars, lunch bags, trash can liners in small trash cans such as the bathroom. I just wish the government would get it's big fat nose out of everbody elses business (good luck there).
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Originally posted by Marcus Green:
There is a view that waste is everybodys business
Great... then why charge the tax on plastic AND paper? If plastic is a problem then they should be promoting the use of paper by taxing just the plastic. As it is, this sounds like a scam to introduce a new tax.Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Plastic bags are a substantial problem in landfills. They don't break down quickly and they inhibit decomposition. So why not use the same container(s)?
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Originally posted by Ellen Zhao:
Aldi is a German company, no wonder they are carrying out their _tradition_ there even in USA. I wonder whether they also charge the bottles of drinks there?
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Originally posted by Warren Dew:
It's to be noted that paper bags don't break down in today's high tech landfills either (high tech to avoid leaching of mercury and stuff). Plus, paper bags take up several times more space than plastic bags in landfills. To the extent plastic bags are bad, paper bags are even worse.
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Great... then why charge the tax on plastic AND paper? If plastic is a problem then they should be promoting the use of paper by taxing just the plastic. As it is, this sounds like a scam to introduce a new tax.
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"God who creates and is nature is very difficult to understand, but he is not arbitrary or malicious." OR "God does not play dice." - Einstein
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Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
Can you imagine walking home / standing at a bus stop in driving rain afer shopping carrying paper bags? They'd fall apart in a minute. Plus, paper = trees and they're not particualrly reusable. (By which you may find ONE maybe TWO extra uses for them once you get them home but no more). At least with the BAG for life, it's reused over and over.
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Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
It also seems that other people here find alternative uses for bags, but unfortunately the percentage of the population that is as diligent in not wasting bags as the people on JR is fairly small - most people just chuck their bags away.
[ January 25, 2005: Message edited by: Dave Lenton ]
Originally posted by Steven Bell:
P.S. the whole paper bags = trees thing. so what we have more trees than we know what to do with in the US. The number of trees has been growing for more than 30 years. It's a renewable resource.
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
We don't need to imagine that in US. We are a rich country, such that we don't need to wait for a public bus after buying stuff from super market. We have our own cars here
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"God who creates and is nature is very difficult to understand, but he is not arbitrary or malicious." OR "God does not play dice." - Einstein
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Great... then why charge the tax on plastic AND paper? If plastic is a problem then they should be promoting the use of paper by taxing just the plastic. As it is, this sounds like a scam to introduce a new tax.
A good workman is known by his tools.
Originally posted by Steven Bell:
And how do you know this. The purpose of taxes should be to gain money for the running of the government NOT to attempt to change peoples lifestyle. Of course it has been decades since that was the case.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
And, in fact, our failure to properly manage our forests and cut down enough trees is the reason we have had so many out-of-control forest fires over the last couple of years.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
proper management means letting the forest take care of itself.
That means not cutting down trees but it also means not killing just about every living thing in there.
Hunting (even "managed" hunting) reduces the viability of the forest as a whole.
And forest fires are a naturally occurring phenomenon that is a part of natural forest management.
If humans are stupid enough to live in a forest and not keep clear firelanes around their property wide enough to prevent fires from crossing them you can't blame the forest for that...
I know such a totally natural system isn't a possibility for a long time in our factory style forests but to say that the only way to prevent forest fires is deforestation is incorrect.
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