Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Then tonight I saw Hotel Rwanda. Man this movie was outstanding. I liked MDB, but in my opinon (my Oscar ballot must have been lost in the mail) this was a far better movie. I didn't see Ray, so I can't comment on Jamie Fox's performance, but it's hard to imagine that he was superior to Don Cheadle.
There will be glitches in my transition from being a saloon bar sage to a world statesman. - Tony Banks
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I didn't see Ray, so I can't comment on Jamie Fox's performance, but it's hard to imagine that he was superior to Don Cheadle.
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Kishore
SCJP, blog
Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
I think Oscar awards are outdated in a sense that they never try to recognize world cinema like Golden Globe does(they have one category for best foreign language film and do appreciate works like 'Crouching Tiger' and music for a spanish film this year).
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Not completely true. Non-US movies and actors are frequently nominated and occasionally win. I know that UK films have won in the past for example. Take a look at this year's nominees and winners and you'll see many non-US nominees. An Indian film was nominated in the "Best Short Film, Live Action" category for example (A British film won that category). A joint India/US production won an Oscar in the "Best Documentary, Features" category. And that's just this year. Have a close look at the nominees and the winners. I think you'll be surprised.
I don't always agree with the choices the Academy makes as far as who wins, but I think based on the nominations that they do a fair job at looking at the world's best, even if they aren't always winners.
Kishore
SCJP, blog
Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
The trouble with the Oscars is that they aren't really a reflection on either the quality of the film/performance, or on what the punters liked - its all down to the goodies that the voters get given by the film companies. Its one of the few voting systems in the world which openly acknowledges that the voters receive bribes, but also strangely claim that it does not effect their voting.
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
And sometimes voting is sentimental. I haven't seen "Ray," but I imagine a solid performance by Foxx goes a longer way than a solid performance by anoyone else simply because of Ray Charles, and the attention his legacy commands now that he's gone.
Kishore
SCJP, blog
Make visible what, without you, might perhaps never have been seen.
- Robert Bresson
Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Welll, sure, but the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences isn't the most multi-cultural of institutions there ever was. And I sincerely doubt world sentiments weigh much, if at all, in the voting. It's about Hollywood, after all, not about judging the merits of all film-making worldwide.
Why there is an audience for Oscar night beyond the US and maybe surrounding countries is beyond me, unless it's for the spectacle of the show. Same with the Super Bowl and the World Series -- why would you care if you don't like American football or baseball?
Kishore
SCJP, blog
Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
The other problem is the race issue. One of the reasons why it was good to see Foxx win an Oscar is that Oscars have been proportionally very rare for non-white actors and directors. While this situation has improved, the number of white winners massively dwarfs the number of non-white winners. Maybe this could be a reason for Hotel Rwanda not doing so well....
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
Keep race out of it. There's enough places where race is the sole reason to give someone something...
What's next, "Best African American actor with more than 10% Latino blood" maybe?
There will be glitches in my transition from being a saloon bar sage to a world statesman. - Tony Banks
Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
Despite that, where the Oscars are concerned the number of black winners of best actor/actress are proportionally lower then the number of leading roles in main stream films acted by a black actor or actress. I very much doubt that a person's skin colour can effect their acting ability, so this implies that there may be a bias against them.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I would argue that simply considering the number of leading roles is insufficient to draw such a conclusion. The Academy has a clear preference for a certain type of film. In order to draw this kind of conclusion I would think you would have to first have to look at movies of the type which the Academy has historically awarded, and then look at the actors.
Kishore
SCJP, blog
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I would argue that simply considering the number of leading roles is insufficient to draw such a conclusion. The Academy has a clear preference for a certain type of film. In order to draw this kind of conclusion I would think you would have to first have to look at movies of the type which the Academy has historically awarded, and then look at the actors.
There will be glitches in my transition from being a saloon bar sage to a world statesman. - Tony Banks