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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:
�I recommend the English Fighting System� � I think Boxing was (is) the "NewSpeak" of European martial arts.
Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
Bare knuckle boxing is very much different then what modern boxing is today. For a start bare knuckle boxers hold their arms are held much lower than the boxing guard of today. It made much sense back then because it was legal to grapple and throw the opponent.
Indeed there was a few other implication of not wearing gloves that made bare knuckle boxing different from modern boxing.
As is the rest of our bodies. For one [initially hard] style, I did a bit of forearm conditioning for a short while - I think we were damaging nerves, so that it did not hurt (as much) when blocking / striking. A bit too brutal for me nowadaysYour hands are delicate, beautiful, and wondrous instruments of articulation.
- Always was; Genghis Khan and the Mongols, English Longbow.It occurred to me that shooting things was more efficient
- Not shooting thingsThe first martial art I learned was in the military - how to shoot things. If that's not a martial art, I don't know what is.
Nice oneMy third attempt at the martial arts was marriage.
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
and over 20 cage matches that I've fought in
Yikes. Ultimate Fighting???!!!
Originally posted by Max Habibi:
Very, very few, actually: perhaps some of more exotic forms of Kung Fu. Most martial arts teach you to keep your guard up
Originally posted by Max Habibi:
I understand your assertion, but I'm unaware of the facts that it's based on, Can you please explain to me why wearing gloves inclines a boxes to raise his guard?
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Originally posted by Roger Nelson:
I don't get it why people are so interested in learning martial arts.
Is'nt it for pleasing the animal in human to derive great pleasure by physical hurting someone?
I can understand if its taken as an hobby, or by a law enforcement officer and similar kinds.
But for an average joe, learning it and practically making use of it in this current world is far less.
I guess its similar to countries holding nuclear bombs, they wont use it, but spend a huge amount of resources to develop and maintain it.
some may argue that it teaches self discipline, confidence etc,but there are other and better ways to learn that
Are you referring to "scientific boxing" -- developed a little over two hundred years ago by Daniel Mendoza, an English Jew of Spanish ancestry)?Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
I recommend the English Fighting System; it is great if you don�t want to dedicate your life to martial arts.
That is especially good advice, because a cane or umbrella is the most effective weapon that a middle-aged Englishman is still allowed to carry. In fact, in skilled hands a cane is more effective than a knife.Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
However, if you get hold of a broomstick while you are fighting, I would recommend the Kendo martial arts.
It's more for the satisfaction of knowing that other people aren't going to get away with hurting you.Roger Nelson: I don't get it why people are so interested in learning martial arts. Isn't it for pleasing the animal in human to derive great pleasure by physical hurting someone?
Actually, nowadays criminals threaten violence even against people who are not law enforcement officers (or similar kinds). Hard to believe, isn't it? But I swear, it's true.Roger Nelson: I can understand if its taken as an hobby, or by a law enforcement officer and similar kinds. But for an average joe, learning it and practically making use of it in this current world is far less.
I don't get it why people are so interested in learning martial arts....
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Originally posted by Frank Silbermann:
That is especially good advice, because a cane or umbrella is the most effective weapon that a middle-aged Englishman is still allowed to carry. In fact, in skilled hands a cane is more effective than a knife.
Point taken, but I've seen one website where for $150 dollars you can buy a really strong umbrella that's designed to hold up in a fight. In England, a young man might more easily get away with carrying an umbrella than a strong cane.me: ... a cane or umbrella is the most effective weapon that a middle-aged Englishman is still allowed to carry. In fact, in skilled hands a cane is more effective than a knife.
Originally posted by Max Habibi:
I disagree on three counts. First, an umbrella is a fairly bad weapon, the Avengers notwithstanding. They are brittle, cheap, and difficult to use. A cane is a good weapon, but only insofar as it resembles a stick.
I am skeptical about the degree of relative advantage these weapons would give you over an opponent.Originally posted by Max Habibi: Secondly, a magazine, a glass of water, the ground, walls, and telephone poles make excellent weapons, and are to be found almost anywhere.
A cane (or cane-strength umbrella) can help you keep the knifeman out of hand-to-hand range (if you're expert in the weapon). Also, most places that prohibit the carrying of handguns also prohibit knives -- so again, your self-defense strategy has to balance the threat posed by criminals against the threat posed by the police and courts.Finally, in hand-to-hand, close quarter ranges, there is simple no weapon that's more effective than a knife: not a gun, an umbrella, a banana, or a nuclear missile.
Originally posted by Frank Silbermann:
quote: Originally posted by Max Habibi: Secondly, a magazine, a glass of water, the ground, walls, and telephone poles make excellent weapons, and are to be found almost anywhere.
I am skeptical about the degree of relative advantage these weapons would give you over an opponent.
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Originally posted by Sonny Gill:
From my limited knowledge of martial arts, I assure you, the ground, walls and telephone poles can wreck havoc when they make contact with your face, skull, shoulders, back or hips
Originally posted by Steven Bell:
Very true, but in order to use them you must put yourself in close proximity with your attacker. Something to be avoided if possible.
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Yes, but what if your opponent takes one of these weapons away from you to use against you? You're far better off leaving the ground, walls, and telephone poles at home.Originally posted by Sonny Gill:
From my limited knowledge of martial arts, I assure you, the ground, walls and telephone poles can wreck havoc when they make contact with your face, skull, shoulders, back or hips
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
The population of San Francisco's Chinatown practices unknown for me kind of martial arts. It is called "walking on the street". ..
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