Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
Do other sports have similar promotion/relegation battles - or is this phenomenon unique to european soccer?
Do US NFL teams or NBL teams at the bottom of the rankings have to fight to stay alive even after they're out of contention for 'winning' - If not, does that mean their games are a complete waste of time at the end of the season? Why does anybody go?
Originally posted by Roger Johnson:
why there are so many soccer teams, it is less expensive to organize a soccer team, of course, at the top level, star players are all expensive, but it is relatively easy to start a soccer team. when a team is too expensive to organize, there is less teams produced. the number of teams is also related to the nature of the sport. soccer is more unpredictable, there are 11 people in the field, it is a highly team sport. unlike in baseball, pitcher is the name of the game. in basketball, there are only 5 player in the court. if you have someone like micheal jordan/shaq o'neil, he can really play by himself. football is similar to soccer in this regard, but it is more expensive to maintain a football team.
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Surely almost all sports (irrespective of whether the team is massively influenced by one player such as 4trback or pitcher) have some sort of 'feeder' or 'junior' league system before you break into the 'big-time'.
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Sorry if this is a little off topic, but out of curiosity, has there ever been a team that has moved up from the lower league and then won the premiership?
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Originally posted by Damien Howard:
Sorry if this is a little off topic, but out of curiosity, has there ever been a team that has moved up from the lower league and then won the premiership?
Or vice versa has there ever been a team that has won the premiership and then been relegated to the lower league? Are the teams which get relegated usually the poor ones. Is it mostly a matter of money?
Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
In what sport is there 50 teams in one league? How does that work?
Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
Surely almost all sports (irrespective of whether the team is massively influenced by one player such as 4trback or pitcher) have some sort of 'feeder' or 'junior' league system before you break into the 'big-time'.
My suggestion would be that to keep low achieving teams motivated at the end of the season a relegation system works... Now I dont know how US basketball works at all (apart from the fact that as far as I can see the score is almost always statistically insignificant and should be declared a draw[sorry - thats another argument and not one we should get sidetracked by!]),
but lets assume for the sake of argument that below the NBL are a number of regional leagues??? Would it not be possible to relegat the lowest NBL team at the end of the season and promote the highest performing team from that region?- Thereby giving teams in regional competitions something to aim for (a chance at the big-time) - and really making for some good low-level fixtures in NBL?
Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
can you expand on this statement - I dont understand it at all:
"well, if you are in the last place, you have more right to pick new players next year. " - Surely if you are in last place you have less money to spend so are in a tighter position for getting good signings for next season? Actually reading your statement again this seems to suggest theres a huge advantage in coming last?!!?? that cant be right! (What sport were you talking about there anyway?)
Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
In lower divisions there are stories of teams who have climbed the ranks quickly - I'm sure I read of one team (I forget who) who got promoted 3 seasons in a row and conversely there are teams who struggle so badly after relegation from the Premiership they just keep going down further and further!!
The reality of Premiership soccer these days is that there are at MOST 4 teams capable of winning the thing, the amount of money pumped into the big clubs is such that they will NEVER be relegated,
For the modern English football fan the choice is simple - support a team who will win (ManU, Arsenal Chelsea) OR support a team who actually employee and develop the talent of Englishmen! - In many circles its considered unpatriotic to support one of the major teams!
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Originally posted by Raghuraman Muthuswamy:
Hi Adrian,
You mentioned your home is near Australia Zoo. I was in Melbourne. I think the zoo is in Queensland. You must be following AFL, which team you support. Iam sure it must be "Brisbane Lions". Hope my guess would be correct.
Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
(Leaping for joy seems to have been a bit of a rarity for Southampton fans of late though!)
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