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Glory Gloory Man United

 
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Glory glory Man United!! glory glory Man United!! Glory glory Man United!! Bla bla bla bla bla!!!
 
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I prefer Man and Woman United, much more productive.
 
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I think that is a nice way of saying Man United are pants.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
I think that is a nice way of saying Man United are pants.



They were by far the better team than Arsenal, although its normal to hate Man Utd in the UK out of pure jealously for being so successful, big and rich.

P.S. Stop trolling, again.
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
I think that is a nice way of saying Man United are pants.



Sorry. Nah, I was born just down the road from the Hammer's ground, and I have been apologizing ever since.
 
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Originally posted by Kashif Riaz:


They were by far the better team than Arsenal, although its normal to hate Man Utd in the UK out of pure jealously for being so successful, big and rich.



I guess it would happen to any team successful football team. Us Brits tend to always support the under dog at the expense of the big and successful in most sports.

There are evolutionary/ social economic benefits to putting down the successful team/entity opposed to joining them like what can happen in football. One benefit is it keeps the balance of power more evenly spread, if you studied management you would understand the problem that monopolies have on the economy.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:

Us Brits tend to always support the under dog at the expense of the big and successful in most sports.



Its a shame that nothing prepares us for the childish comments that follow when a top team loses, rather like a certain thread....
 
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Originally posted by Kashif Riaz:
They were by far the better team than Arsenal


Arsenal was the PL champ last year with 49 unbeaten record, and this year they finished 2nd (behind chelsea) & and they beated MU on FA cup FINAL...
may i know why MU were by far better then arsenal ?
 
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Originally posted by Stevie Kaligis:

Originally posted by Kashif Riaz:
They were by far the better team than Arsenal


Arsenal was the PL champ last year with 49 unbeaten record, and this year they finished 2nd (behind chelsea) & and they beated MU on FA cup FINAL...
may i know why MU were by far better then arsenal ?



During the match Man U outplayed Arsenal, and created a larger number of chances. This was only one game though, and certainly not enough to say who was the best team. Rather then saying "They were by far the better team than Arsenal", it may be better to say "They played better than Arsenal", which they did.

But that's the beauty of football - you never know what will happen.
 
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Originally posted by Stevie Kaligis:

Arsenal was the PL champ last year with 49 unbeaten record, and this year they finished 2nd (behind chelsea) & and they beated MU on FA cup FINAL...
may i know why MU were by far better then arsenal ?



Man Utd had beaten Arsenal three times before Saturdays FA Cup final this season. They were outclassed in all of them (as well as the one-sided FA Cup, where Arsenal had just one shot on target - from a free kick), and hadn't beaten them in their last 8 meetings. So I think this is a sound arguement to say that they are the better team, even the Arsenal manager acknowledged it after they won the FA Cup. Also, Arsenal have never retained the title after winning it in the season before, Man Utd have.

And who ended Arsenal's unbeated run?
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Liverpool could achieve much more if they win the champions league tonight. I'm not particularly a Liverpool fan, but would like to see a English team win it.

Man U owe too much money now, as do Arsenal. However, if Chelsea buy a world class forward (Henry, Shevchenko, etc), then next season they could win everything - money talks....

During the final, Heard the Arsenal fans chanting "U.S.A." and waving American flags at the Man U supporters

PS - Can anyone explain why the England team are touring America - what a waste of our players time - money again I guess.
 
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:
PS - Can anyone explain why the England team are touring America - what a waste of our players time - money again I guess.



I think you answered the question with the "m" word. For the American teams and football organisations a high profile tour could bring in a lot of money. It can't have escaped their notice that football is a huge sport just about everywhere on the planet except for the US, and if they could get Americans as interested in it as everyone else is, there could be bucket loads of cash to be made. Bringing a high profile team across to play some games will help that.

Similarly for the English FA, they must be thinking that tours like this will increase the profile of the English team, and possibly gain it some more foreign fans, and therefore merchandising targets.

The tour has little footballing merit though. A lot of good players are not going, so its not like Sven can practice with the first choice team. Given that we need to be preparing for the next World Cup (in Germany), you would have thought that it would be better to be playing games with first choice players, in a European climate.

Personally I'd far rather see a return of the home nationals games against the other British national teams then games against teams like Columbia.
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:

During the final, Heard the Arsenal fans chanting "U.S.A." and waving American flags at the Man U supporters



A large part of Man United has been bought buy an American entrepreneur. The Man-U supporters don�t seem to like it in the extreme.
 
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Liverpool won (thats five times now); and their best players, home grown Liverpool lads Steven Gerard and Jamie Carragher.

bought buy an American entrepreneur

- I think it's how he has done it that going to cause problems, with one third of the money raised as a loan, and another third raised against hedge funds (don't know how the latter one works).

I was born just down the road from the Hammer's ground, and I have been apologizing ever since.

- Apologise for nothing; what about the 66 team, with Bobby Moore. Both Pele and Franz Beckenbauer rated him as one of the best ever - praise indeed. Still a big club, had a few bad seasons - most clubs do.

PS - I just don't think the USA will take to football, they like their own sports too much. If they were going to do so they would have years ago.
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:

PS - I just don't think the USA will take to football, they like their own sports too much. If they were going to do so they would have years ago.



I wouldn't say it will NEVER catch on over here, but it may take some (more) time. Soccer, uhhh... football, is THE sport for kids starting at age 3, at least in the northwest/midwest regions of the country. Maybe as those kids grow up the enthusiasm for the game from their youth will carry over to adulthood. In fact I recall hearing that the sport is gaining in popularity here little by little.

Unfortunately, (American) football has such a strong foothold that any soccer gains will be hard won indeed.

Ryan
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Football could be popular among American girls, the ladies footie league.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
Football could be popular among American girls, the ladies footie league.



Its not such a funny idea. From what I've heard, the US has one of the most high profile, and high skilled, women's football leagues in the world. Some of the better members of the England Women's team play there, as the amount of money invested in the game is higher then in the UK, which is a bit sad considering that we often consider the UK to be both good in terms of equality of sexes, and the "birthplace of football".

Unfortunately the men's game dominates so much here that the women's league is very low profile. Maybe the US's women's football league does well because men's sports is dominated by other sports, leaving football to women.
 
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