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Hi,
In SCJP objective i found there are 7 sections but in exam how much questions from which section or for which topic how much question in the exam is there ?


Please help.
 
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Hi Narendra! I think there is no such weightage thing. You get questions from a pool of questions randomly. Sun has not released any such questions distribution details...
 
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Well, I think there is such a system -
K&B's SCJP book mentions it in some way on some page (e.g. something like "there will be many questions about Threads...").
Also, if you compare each chapter, there is a different number of questions for each chapter, same in the master exams.
Last but not least, if there wasn't such a relation, then it could happen, that you would get 100% questions about generics, and nothing else. Now what would that proof? That you know generics, not that you know Java..

From the distribution of SCJP prep book, I expect the distribution to be:
chapter%questions
17%5
211%8
310%7
47%5
512%9
611%8
712%9
89%6
913%9
109%6

Cheers,

Marcus
 
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Hi Marcus,

How can you assume that this may be weightage. It might be you are right. I dont know but how i can trust on it?

Any way you have done some home work over it, that is for sure. Thank you very much for giving reply. If you can clarify the thing then it is more better.

Thanks again.

Originally posted by Marcus Moreno:

From the distribution of SCJP prep book, I expect the distribution to be:
chapter%questions
17%5
211%8
310%7
47%5
512%9
611%8
712%9
89%6
913%9
109%6

Cheers,

Marcus

 
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Whatever you do, don't use the number of questions in our book as an indication

There are 72 questions spread across 37 objectives, so that means you'll get about 1.9459 questions / objective. Seriously, I think that on average most people get a couple of questions on each objective - it might vary a little, but it won't vary a lot.

hth,

Bert
 
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Narendra, what does all this matter anyway?!
Are you trying to just concentrate on let's say 65% of all topics, and then you hope to get 100% in these topics, or let's say you concentrate on only 80% and hope with some wrong answers you will receive at least 65%?!

Such a way of thinking / studying....... in my humble opinion isn't the smartest! You must know EVERYTHING - you're doing the exam for the knowledge, right?!

Anyway - so Bert says I am not completly right, but I am still sure that there will be some questions on each topic, just like Bert also stated - if it was completly random, that wouldn't make sense either.
Last but not least, I still believe some topics will get more questions than others, first because they might be more important than others, second because some topics are quite easy / less extensive than others.

Finally, the way I interpreted the division of number of questions / topic still does make sense to me, if you look at it like this:
7 Generics and Collections 12% 9
9 Threads 12% 9
5 Flow Control, Exceptions, Assertions 12% 9
6 Strings, IO, Formatting, Parsing 11% 8
2 Object Orientation 11% 8
3 Assignments 10% 7
8 Inner Classes 9% 6
10 Development 9% 6
4 Operators 7% 5
1 Declarations and Access Control 7% 5

Generics and Threads are the most advanced topic, and the topics were you see the difference between a GOOD programmer and a bad one. Consequently, these topics should be tested the most (and / or studied the most), and I am sure they will be.

Anyway, you must know ALL topics for the exam, and I will not do the exam before I know for sure I know EVERYTHING of EVERY chapter.

P.s.:

There are 72 questions spread across 37 objectives, so that means you'll get about 1.9459 questions / objective. Seriously, I think that on average most people get a couple of questions on each objective - it might vary a little, but it won't vary a lot.



Bert,
1.9459 = 2. And 2 is a couple! ;-)

Cheers,

Marcus
[ November 04, 2008: Message edited by: Marcus Moreno ]
 
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Hi Bert and Markus,

Now i m almost clear about how question appear in the exam.

As Bert told it is based on objective(1.92 question) and Markus told the thing that questions are from chapter as percentage.

Almost you both are right. As Bert told that question are based on objective. I am understanding the meaning as multiple objecive are included in the same question.

Bert, my goal is to clear SCJP with highest percentage. So i have posted this. I currently preparing for SCJP and i found that for which topic how much i need to concentrate.

Thank you Very much Bert.

Thank you Very much again Marcus.

You both helped me in nice way. Thanks a lot.
 
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Aehm, no, you misunderstood. Bert was just kidding - so he said it is NOT 2 questions / objective.
 
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