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Is Grails out?

 
Cliff Holdem
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I was looking at Grails and liked what I saw. I was considering it for a new site, but, when I investigated further the whole Groovy/Grails project was bought by SpringSource. Is this the kiss of death for Grails? I haven't seen a forum posting here since October 23rd for "grails".

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Mark Spritzler
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Why would you think that? Grails is still Grails and still an open source project. The people at G2One are still there and the developers of Grails is still there. And I am not sure if you knew this, but Grails has always been built about Spring MVC.

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Cliff Holdem
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I just get the impression that when a profit making company comes in and sweeps up an open source project that the open source version will be a second class citizen and for the most part you'll have to purchase into the commercial version if you want updates, upgrades, etc.
 
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Cliff Holdem wrote:I just get the impression that when a profit making company comes in and sweeps up an open source project that the open source version will be a second class citizen and for the most part you'll have to purchase into the commercial version if you want updates, upgrades, etc.


Unfortunately you are correct in most cases. In the case of JBoss and SpringSource, this is definitely not the case. The open source project is always considered the upstream to the productized version. The productized version has always been meant for those that have to have a company behind it providing support.

Open Source projects never had any guarantee of a single bit of support at all. You were at the mercy of someone being nice. But with a company like SpringSource and JBoss, you are guaranteed support.

If you had a concern about a company adding support for a product, then you would have had a problem with Grails even before the SpringSource and G2One merger, because G2One was a profit making company behind Grails.

I wouldn't worry about Grails, it will still be a great open source project.

Mark
 
Graeme Rocher
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Cliff Holdem wrote:I just get the impression that when a profit making company comes in and sweeps up an open source project that the open source version will be a second class citizen and for the most part you'll have to purchase into the commercial version if you want updates, upgrades, etc.


Hi Cliff,

As Mark pointed out, Grails was already backed by a profit making company (G2One), which we started to provide commercial offerings behind Groovy and Grails. SpringSource acquired G2One and the rest is history.

I would also say that having a company like SpringSource behind Grails is a major benefit, rather than something you should see as a negative. SpringSource will continue to put significant resources into Grails and offer a valuable service for those who need help on their Grails based projects. Many organizations would not take the risk of investing in a technology without knowing it was backed by a major commercial entity. People looking to choose something like Grails are safe in the knowledge that SpringSource is there if needed.

Cheers,
Graeme Rocher
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Cliff Holdem
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Thanks for the replies. Nice to hear from you Graeme. Congratulations on the release of your 2nd edition. I already have the e-book and I'm really enjoying it.

Cliff.


 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
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