IBM to laid-off: Want a job in India?

[S. Palanigounder]

http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/05/news/companies/ibm_jobs/index.htm?postversion=2009020515

[Ulf Dittmer]

Do you you have an opinion on that?

[S. Palanigounder]

Ulf Dittmer wrote:Do you you have an opinion on that?

For the people originally from India, it might be an OK deal. Otherwise, it would be hard.

[Gabriel Claramunt]

Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Poland, or Hungary doesn't sound bad, although with a local wage alone could be tough.
On the other hand, it seems just a stunt...

[Misha Ver]

I vote for Czech Republic

[Tim Holloway]

Well, my wife has been asking for some time whether we could emigrate to India so we wouldn't have to struggle with the wage differential. And I'm a tropical person anyway - better there than Russia for me.

On the other hand, this seems especially ill-timed. People are really sensitive about jobs right now. Every last one of the countries mentioned is a low-wage (relative to US) offshoring haven, and that pretty much serves as a slap in the face that cost is all that counts.

The natives are all ready in an uproar about executive "pay-to-fail" salaries, so this is just extra gasoline on the fire.

[Misha Ver]

Should the wage be different after moving abroad? For example, Cisco pays to Wim Elfrink, Chief Globalization Officer and Exec. VP of Cisco Services, who works in Bangalore, the same salary as to US based key executives. Look at http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=CSCO

[Mike Isano]

Misha Ver wrote:Should the wage be different after moving abroad? For example, Cisco pays to Wim Elfrink, Chief Globalization Officer and Exec. VP of Cisco Services, who works in Bangalore, the same salary as to US based key executives. Look at http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=CSCO

If they planned on paying them the same amount, there would be no need to cut their jobs in the first place.

[Tim Holloway]

Misha Ver wrote:Should the wage be different after moving abroad? For example, Cisco pays to Wim Elfrink, Chief Globalization Officer and Exec. VP of Cisco Services, who works in Bangalore, the same salary as to US based key executives. Look at http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=CSCO

I got an annual report from one of the Indian companies (Wipro, I think) that listed in great detail salaries almost down to departmental managers. You could pretty much tell which ones worked in which country based on their compensation.

I'm sure that you don't have to go very far down Cisco's ladder before they stop paying US salaries in the Bangalore offices!

On a more practical basis, whether to pay/be paid US or Indian payscales comes down to future expectations. If I move to Chennai, get paid Chennai wages for 5 years, then move to Silicon Valley - or, worse yet, attempted to keep US-based assets active while being paid Chennai wages - I'm at a tremendous financial disadvantage relative to people who didn't move overseas. However, if I move to Chennai permanently and have Chennai expectations, I'm probably going to be quite happy.

[Misha Ver]

Mike Isano wrote:If they planned on paying them the same amount, there would be no need to cut their jobs in the first place.

Probably, but in case of moving someone to another country the company could save on other expenses like medical insurance, office maintenance, taxes and so on.