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Books on how to win an argument

 
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Any pointers to books on topics such as:

1. How to win an argument
2. How to have things your way
3. How to be diplomatic
4. How to use jargons in "management talks"

I can think one of though I haven't read it: Don't say Yes when you want to say No
 
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I don't understand why you seem so intent on "winning" an argument, but you might take a look at this page on fallacy.
 
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I think you are wrong.

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that's not an argument!
 
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Bert, it's obvious you hate Javaranch, and you're just looking for an excuse to malign our fine cattle.
 
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Originally posted by marc weber:
I don't understand why you seem so intent on "winning" an argument, but you might take a look at this page on fallacy.



I haven't read entire article, but I'm agree with following sentance that i read.

"Your argument is wrong because you work for MicroSoft!"

I agree with it and will use it at appropriate situation.
 
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Obligatory Monty Python reference: But I came here for an argument!
 
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You can always take a page from Adam Savage and use "I reject your reality and substitute my own."
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Mahboobani:
Any pointers to books on topics such as:

1. How to win an argument
2. How to have things your way
3. How to be diplomatic
4. How to use jargons in "management talks"

I can think one of though I haven't read it: Don't say Yes when you want to say No

I don't know about management jargon, but the classic is Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People.
 
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no it's not!
 
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
no it's not!



It is.
 
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I prefer large reasonably heavy hardcover books in an argument. They pack a good punch and are easy to swing both horizontally and vertically.

Something like an atlas or the handbook of chemistry and physics for example are great for settling arguments.
Paperback novels are far less effective, but in an emergency can be used to deflect other peoples' arguments.
 
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[Jeroen]: Something like an atlas or the handbook of chemistry and physics for example are great for settling arguments.

Yeah, the CRC Handbook is pretty authoritative, isn't it?

[Jeroen]: Paperback novels are far less effective, but in an emergency can be used to deflect other peoples' arguments.

They're also easier to lug around, and are much more maneuverable if your opponent is attempting to dodge or deflect. And the spine can deliver a surprising solid blow to the skull - not to be underestimated. Also can be concealable, especially in colder weather under a coat or jacket.
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Mahboobani:
Any pointers to books on topics such as:

1. How to win an argument
2. How to have things your way
3. How to be diplomatic
4. How to use jargons in "management talks"

I can think one of though I haven't read it: Don't say Yes when you want to say No



I was thinking this way before whenever i lose a debate
with my boss over a new requirement. Later, when I checked his
background I found out he was a VP before so this guy must have
lots of training of how to be a jackass. So, I guess bosses are good
examples to observe.
 
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Originally posted by Robbi Palacios:
...this guy must have lots of training of how to be a jackass. So, I guess bosses are good
examples to observe.


If being a (bigger) jackass is the key, then I would question the definition of "winning."
 
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Hahaha , i guess someday I'll be a better jackass than
my boss.
 
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Originally posted by marc weber:
I don't understand why you seem so intent on "winning" an argument, but you might take a look at this page on fallacy.



The inten is not on "winning", but on being able to sustain in an argument.

Ok let me put it this way, - How to argue with your boss? Any one?
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Mahboobani:
Ok let me put it this way, - How to argue with your boss? Any one?


Ever seen American Beauty?
 
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Originally posted by Svend Rost:
...Ever seen American Beauty?


No, but Office Space comes to mind. And then there's Fight Club...
 
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yes, Fight Club...
 
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Anybody read this book?



Amazon Link
 
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Thanks Chetan - You hit the bulls eye.
 
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No, he didn't!
 
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