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Anybody tried it? I downloaded and while installing saw a message asking for permission to check my OS. I was afraid M$ will install the WGA through this and aborted the installation. My query is does M$ just check for the genuiness or does it install the pestering tool which I have avoided all along.
 
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Don't know what a company or product called M$ has to do with Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.
WGA is a requirement for ALL non-critical (meaning all except security hotfixes which protect others from you) updates to Windows, and will probably soon be required for ALL software Microsoft produces (in other words, you may not be able to install the next version of MS Office without it).

If you run a legal version of Windows, there's nothing to be afraid of.
If you run a pirated version, you get what you deserve.
 
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
Don't know what a company or product called M$ has to do with Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.
WGA is a requirement for ALL non-critical (meaning all except security hotfixes which protect others from you) updates to Windows, and will probably soon be required for ALL software Microsoft produces (in other words, you may not be able to install the next version of MS Office without it).

If you run a legal version of Windows, there's nothing to be afraid of.
If you run a pirated version, you get what you deserve.



Nothing to be afraid, thats right, I do have a licensed version of the OS. But it is the nagging part of the WGA (or for that matter with any update from Microsoft) which is turning me off. I dont want something to get installed in my m/c (without my knowledge) which will keep transmitting sensitive data to Redmond base. And I also dont want somebody to say, install this, install that, then only our product will work! I should my choice.
 
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Just after installing it, and I like the new "Quick Tabs" button that quickly shows all tabs. Neat.
 
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I tried it. Nice interface. But I started hating it after java did not show up on the screen. Usually IE would ask me if I wanted to run the code. This time it didnt even ask !
 
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Originally posted by John Meyers:
I tried it. Nice interface. But I started hating it after java did not show up on the screen. Usually IE would ask me if I wanted to run the code. This time it didnt even ask !


Does it install WGA or it just checks for the OS version etc..
I am eager test this version.
 
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
If you run a legal version of Windows, there's nothing to be afraid of.



Not always. Apparently..

some people have complained of glitches with the WGA tool that means they are being told erroneously they are using a counterfeit copy of XP.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5144698.stm

Some more:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/04/microsoft_wga-validation_snafu/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/07/wga_disadvantage/
 
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I didnt install the software myself. Auto update at work i guess. That would mean WGA or whatever its called is installed on my system
 
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Originally posted by Raghav Sam:


Nothing to be afraid, thats right, I do have a licensed version of the OS. But it is the nagging part of the WGA (or for that matter with any update from Microsoft) which is turning me off. I dont want something to get installed in my m/c (without my knowledge) which will keep transmitting sensitive data to Redmond base. And I also dont want somebody to say, install this, install that, then only our product will work! I should my choice.



Typical conspiracy theory as floated by the ./ kiddos.
No sensitive data is transmitted at any time... All that's sent is a hashed key which is compared with known pirated hashed keys and known good hashed keys, that's the same key that was sent during activation in fact.
Nor is anything installed without your knowledge, as it is only installed after you say you're OK to install it.

If you don't think Microsoft has the right to prevent their products from running on pirated copies of Windows you should explain that...
First those pirated copies are stolen property, costing Microsoft a lot of money. Next the software installed is either also stolen property (say, a pirated MS Office) or provided free of charge by Microsoft. Why should Microsoft have to provide services for free to people who have already stolen from them?
I wonder how you would like it if someone were to call your office and demand support for his pirated copy of your product, and free upgrades for all eternity (because that's essentially what you're saying Microsoft should give people).
 
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